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IRS stonewalls probe of tea party targeting emails

Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73417 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:01 pm
Transparent aren't they?

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen said Wednesday that he won’t be able to produce all of former employee Lois G. Lerner’s emails and those of other key employees by the end of this year, pushing it beyond this year’s congressional elections.

In a heated exchange over whether he and his tax agency employees are cooperating in Congress’s investigations into tea party targeting, Mr. Koskinen said the amount of time it will take to look through and redact private information from the documents could last years.

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Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:03 pm to
Not even a smidgeon of evidence!

(it's easy when you don't look!)
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

Mr. Koskinen said the amount of time it will take to look through and redact private information from the documents could last years.


he should ask the NSA for help
Posted by Clete Purcel
Jennings, LA
Member since Oct 2013
145 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:04 pm to
It's tax time. I wonder if the excuse, "The time it will take to look through my finances and ensure I'm compliant with current onerous tax code could last years" when I don't file by the deadline would be valid?

What's good for the goose...
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98468 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:28 pm to


If this was a GOP Administration, you could not turn on CNN or any network news broadcast without hearing about this.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen said Wednesday that he won’t be able to produce all of former employee Lois G. Lerner’s emails and those of other key employees by the end of this year,


WHAT? Why not? They've known this was coming. I get that you have to restore tape backup to find everything that was deleted, but there are archive data mining tools that can do this more quickly than 9 months.

Throw them all in jail for contempt, I'm sick of this shite.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

If this was a GOP Administration, the mainstream media would have been on this from the beginning like flies on sh!t, and several IRS officials would already be in jail, along with several White House officials including Valerie Jarret (where all of this originated), and the president would have already been impeached.


FIFY!
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45794 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:45 pm to
What are Congress's options at this point?
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

If this was a GOP Administration, you could not turn on CNN or any network news broadcast without hearing about this.


Hell the media had a field day about Chris Christie closing a bridge, imagine what they would do with this.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73417 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Hell the media had a field day about Chris Christie closing a bridge, imagine what they would do with this.
The "specials" by MSM outlets would be constant.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57243 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:15 pm to
It's like the don't know what databases are capable of doing.

There are over the counter solutions that can convert emails into searchable texts within data tables. Take 10,000 emails, scan and insert the data in 20 minutes.

Then search "tea party"

Viola

Years?????
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:23 pm to
Doesn't the IRS have an IT department where they can search through emails?

It takes me less than 10 minutes to locate emails.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51475 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:31 pm to
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In a heated exchange over whether he and his tax agency employees are cooperating in Congress’s investigations into tea party targeting, Mr. Koskinen said the amount of time it will take to look through and redact private information from the documents could last years.


I've been involved in multiple instances of gathering government emails from certain people on certain events and their excuse that it could take years is utter bullshite.

When it's only a handful of specific people you get a copy of the mail files then use search criteria to go through them looking for key words and phrases. This is a task that should take a team of 5 researchers a couple of months AT MOST.

This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:10 pm to
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This is a task that should take a team of 5 researchers a couple of months AT MOST.


Does it really matter? After they "redact" all the "personal" information, you KNOW that this is what every e-mail will look lite --





Of course, the Dear Leader will insist that there isn't one smidgen of evidence of wrongdoing.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78910 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:15 pm to
Uh....it's just a database, not freaking rocket science. Just a ploy to buy more time.

DOJ will pounce on them to get the info......oh wait.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73417 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Uh....it's just a database, not freaking rocket science. Just a ploy to buy more time.
Yep
quote:

DOJ will pounce on them to get the info......oh wait.
No fricking way, we have no DOJ, we have henchmen for the Dear Leader.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78910 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:35 pm to
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oh wait


Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

"The time it will take to look through my finances and ensure I'm compliant with current onerous tax code could last years" when I don't file by the deadline would be valid?


Only good if you're a Dem Sec of the Treasury.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:24 pm to
Why doesn't Congress just exempt themselves from the law preventing unauthorized disclosure of taxpayer information when the information is obtained pursuant to a subpoena? That would make Koskinen's objections moot.

We have reached the level of absurdity. The IRS is telling Congress we can't let you find out if an employee broke the law unless we break the law to do so. So you just have to trust us to police ourselves.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:43 pm to
"Our witness today won't get us [former IRS official Lois Lerner's] emails. The guy who can give us the emails won't give us the emails. The same people who pressured Lois Lerner to fix the problem are the same people who picked John Koskinen to finish the job," Ohio GOP Rep. Jim Jordan said, according to Politico."

Jim Jordan and Trey Gowdy are by far the two best interrogators in the House during committee hearings. They use their 5 minutes better than anyone I've watched on C-Span in many years. Jordan's questions are rapid-fire, no bullshite, on point and he does not allow himself to be sidetracked by the witness.


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