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Major Flaw in Basketball Replay Rules
Posted on 3/21/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 3/21/14 at 3:38 pm
Anybody who just watched the New Mexico game saw how flawed the replay system is. The problem is that possession, but not fouls, can be judged on review. New Mexico grabbed a rebound that Stanford swatted at and knocked out of bounds. Or at least that's what the ref thought. However, upon review, it was clear that Stanford had hacked the wrist rather than the ball, causing the ball to go out of bounds. So not only was NM not given free throws, but the ref had to award Stanford the ball even though he could tell the only reason it was last touched by NM was because of the foul he missed. A team is not only not penalized, but actually rewarded, because of a ref realizing something they did that he perceived as legal was actually illegal.
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 3:39 pm to TheSexecutioner
Saw that too. It was complete bullshite.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 3:40 pm to TheSexecutioner
It can also give a team with no timeouts a valuable chance to draw something up
This post was edited on 3/21/14 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 3/21/14 at 3:42 pm to TheSexecutioner
Refs cheated on that same sort of thing last night in the SDSU-NMSU game. After looking at a replay, they knew they missed a foul on a three-point attempt that ended up an airball. So they gave the ball to the team that was shooting even though the shooter was fouled on the hand/wrist without the defender touching the ball.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 3:42 pm to TheSexecutioner
Yeah. A lot of times refs just don't call the foul and give the rightful team the ball instead of the touch foul and I'm 100% ok with that. But replay screws that up
Posted on 3/21/14 at 3:45 pm to wish i was tebow
So you want to replay everything to now call fouls on replay?
Yeah, that would be great.
Lets it expand it to the NFL - where we can now call PI or holding on reviews of whether a receiver caught the ball in bounds.
Yeah, that would be great.
Lets it expand it to the NFL - where we can now call PI or holding on reviews of whether a receiver caught the ball in bounds.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 3:47 pm to Zamoro10
quote:I don't think that was his point.
So you want to replay everything to now call fouls on replay?
His point was, the replay was to check for possession. If you are running that replay(which is already allowed) and the ONLY reason the possession went a particular way is that you can see the guy got all arm instead of all ball, the ref should be able to make that call. At the least, even if no foul is called, it could affect the possession ruling.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 4:02 pm to TheSexecutioner
Ummm, didn't LSU get the benefit of a foul call via replay v. San Francisco the other night? Foul was called against LSU, the refs reviewed it and ended up calling a technical foul against the SF guard for throwing an elbow into LSU player's jaw.
It was a big turning point in the game.
It was a big turning point in the game.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 4:04 pm to SettleDown
yes settledown that's exactly right. How zombara or whoever missed the point is pretty baffling.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 4:22 pm to TheSexecutioner
I get why they can't call fouls on replay. Because there is always some kind of contact on every play that could be considered a foul. And if the referee wants to be a dick, he COULD call a foul on the replay on whoever he wants.
HOWEVER..
In a circumstance like today where the blatant wrist grab was the REASON that the ball went out of bounds, I think they should be able to say he grabbed his wrist, therefore it is New Mexico's ball.
Maybe still don't call it a foul on the replay, but at least give the right team the ball.
HOWEVER..
In a circumstance like today where the blatant wrist grab was the REASON that the ball went out of bounds, I think they should be able to say he grabbed his wrist, therefore it is New Mexico's ball.
Maybe still don't call it a foul on the replay, but at least give the right team the ball.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 4:24 pm to wish i was tebow
quote:
Yeah. A lot of times refs just don't call the foul and give the rightful team the ball instead of the touch foul and I'm 100% ok with that. But replay screws that up
This
Posted on 3/21/14 at 5:25 pm to wish i was tebow
quote:
Yeah. A lot of times refs just don't call the foul and give the rightful team the ball instead of the touch foul and I'm 100% ok with that. But replay screws that up
:kige:
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:47 pm to ThaKaptin
Another problem outside of just fouls is that the rest of the game its not necessarily out on who technically touched it last. In a pelicans game earlier this year, Ryan Anderson grabbed a rebound which Noah knocked out of bounds. As he knocked it away, it rolled off of Anderson's hands, so Pelicans technically touched it last. Ref had to award it to Bulls even though for the other 46 minutes, the ball goes to who knocks it out, not technically has last touch. Its not eliminating human error as much as changing what are he de facto rules for the rest of the game.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:51 pm to TheSexecutioner
quote:
Anybody who just watched the New Mexico game saw how flawed the replay system is. The problem is that possession, but not fouls, can be judged on review. New Mexico grabbed a rebound that Stanford swatted at and knocked out of bounds. Or at least that's what the ref thought. However, upon review, it was clear that Stanford had hacked the wrist rather than the ball, causing the ball to go out of bounds. So not only was NM not given free throws, but the ref had to award Stanford the ball even though he could tell the only reason it was last touched by NM was because of the foul he missed. A team is not only not penalized, but actually rewarded, because of a ref realizing something they did that he perceived as legal was actually illegal.
Amen.
The fact that they can review out of bounds calls in the final 2 minutes is literally retarded.
"Yeah, we missed about ten of those calls tonight that all had an impact on the game, but now that there's under two minutes left we better make sure we get this one right!!!"
It is the dumbest thing ever.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:52 pm to wish i was tebow
quote:
Yeah. A lot of times refs just don't call the foul and give the rightful team the ball instead of the touch foul and I'm 100% ok with that. But replay screws that up
This. Been saying exactly this for a while. It's a compromise call, but then the replay fricks it up.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 11:38 pm to BayouBengals03
Bill Walton had a good statement in LSU game... Something along the lines of 'that's why we play the game for two hours. Things even out over that time' while complaining about replay.
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