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Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:52 am
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:52 am
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Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:54 am to
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House Committee on Insurance 9:30AM
HB502 - Buford - requires auto insurance agencies to give retired military folks a 20% discount?


What is this, Russia?



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Senate Committee on Local and Municipal Affairs (sometime this afternoon)
SB90 - Dorsey - Restricts neighborhood watches. Forbids them from confronting suspicious persons and requires them to comply with any advise that 911 operators have.


What is this, Russia?

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SB90 - Dorsey


Not shocked.
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Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62431 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:56 am to
Putin is making La his bitch.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:04 am to
What do you do if the suspicious person confronts you as Trayvon did?
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14491 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:07 am to
cool, neat to see posters trying to give others a heads up on bills that might be interesting.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:08 am to
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What do you do if the suspicious person confronts you as Trayvon did?


Curl into a fetal ball and accept your social justice.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:09 am to
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SB90 - Dorsey - Restricts neighborhood watches. Forbids them from confronting suspicious persons and requires them to comply with any advise that 911 operators have.


Wouldn't it be simpler to just outlaw hoodies? Makes about as much sense - or nonsense.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:11 am to
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La Legislative session for 4-19-14
Did I sleep through March???

Oh, crap!! I missed the tax deadline!!!
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:12 am to
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Did I sleep through March???


Sorry It's hard to type while LOLing.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:18 am to
Student privacy bills are being discussed right now. it'll take a while.

Current admin is giving our kids' SSNs and personal data to select private entities - some of which have automatically enrolled students into charter/virtual classes so that the state will pay them.

Also, there's concerns about private IT contractors (some outsourced abroad) having access to the data.

eta: Like clockwork, Rep. Broadwater is against the privacy laws.

eta2: Thompson, another Charter guy is against it because he is worried a company may accidentally leak student SSNs and we wouldn't want to be too hard on them.

eta3: legit WYHI is crying now while testifying.
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Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:44 pm to
Man, there's some serious political maneuvering going on with the student privacy bills.

The Administration has stepped out in front of this and has their own version. The only problem is their own version takes out any penalties or repercussions for leaking student information and creates loopholes for the state to give the information to anyone they choose, including private companies, so long as they have an agreement. Seems pretty pointless, but they will claim a victory no doubt.

They've also claimed that the real privacy bill by Schroeder will cost the state $2 billion dollars, which is LOL funny. This all hinges on the belief that the state would be incapable of adding a unique identifier in place of the SSN and thus would lose TOPS and federal matching funds - which is ridiculous.

This crap is a much bigger deal than people realize. Companies are buying this data (including SSNs) and using it as part of a profit model.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:49 pm to
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What is this, Russia?

one of my favorite sayings IRL
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:58 pm to
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What do you do if the suspicious person confronts you as Trayvon did?


Murder him.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 2:03 pm to
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their own version takes out any penalties or repercussions for leaking student information and creates loopholes for the state to give the information to anyone they choose, including private companies, so long as they have an agreement.

i thought Privacy Act of 1974 covered this and describes legitimate use, does it not apply to state agencies?
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Companies are buying this data (including SSNs) and using it as part of a profit model.

private companies are buying personally-identifiable data from the state? do you mean charter schools or something else?
Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 2:06 pm to
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private companies are buying personally-identifiable data from the state? do you mean charter schools or something else?


Data has been handed over to Google, Microsoft, virtual schools ( to help them recruit), and a myriad of market research and Human resource companies. Yes, it can include SSNs.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 2:14 pm to
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Data has been handed over to Google, Microsoft, virtual schools ( to help them recruit), and a myriad of market research and Human resource companies.

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Companies are buying this data (including SSNs) and using it as part of a profit model.

the state sharing data like this does not sound legal, unless the company is working for the state and the ways that they can use non-identifiable data are established.

i could see how schools (charter or virtual) could fall under that, but i don't see how google or microsoft could, unless they were designing/maintaining our databases or something

but it sounds like you're saying this data is being sold to companies who want it simply for marketing purposes. am i hearing you right?
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 2:37 pm to
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but it sounds like you're saying this data is being sold to companies who want it simply for marketing purposes. am i hearing you right?


Essentially, yes. The DOE isn't exactly forthcoming in these matters. We know the data goes to private companies in exchange for services or free storage. The data was handed over to Google and InBloom, a spinoff from owners of Microsoft and Fox News.

We know that data goes to other state agencies who then pass the data on to anyone they contract with for similar purposes. They can call it workforce development and give the data to a company for that purpose. That company in turn packages the data and resells it. They send the data to the fed government who does who knows what with it.

All of this is believed to be perfectly legal, although it is a bit murky.

This guy has a crusade against federal and state government getting too involved with local schools and has covered it extensively: Crazy Crawfish's Blog|Zesty Louisiana Education Politics

I wish I knew what happened with the Trayvon bill. I would have a hard time containing my laughter if I were on that committee.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 2:44 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 2:39 pm to
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SB90 - Dorsey - Restricts neighborhood watches. Forbids them from confronting suspicious persons and requires them to comply with any advise that 911 operators have


So does he plan to deputize the 911 operators now?
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 2:46 pm to
if this
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That company in turn packages the data and resells it.

and/or this
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data goes to private companies in exchange for services or free storage

transfer in ownership is happening, it should be a huge story and heads should be rolling.

i have handled that type of data for years for both federal agencies and some in LA, and that shite is NOT legit use. if agreements are being written where this is allowed they are not legit either. and DOE should not be able to potentially be getting away with this so easily.

what's fishy about this is that i know for a fact that DOE in particular is very reluctant to share data, even with other agencies and for the most legit of purposes. it seems unlikely they'd be handing it out left and right in other places

ETA: looking at that crazycrawfish site, i'm starting to think it isn't happening that way, and that privacy concerns are basically public education advocates concern-trolling to protect the status quo

i'm all for thorough regs on ensuring confidentiality though, and for ensuring only contractors get access to that data, and only get to use it in support of and while working on state-contracted jobs. i know that at the federal level Privacy Act breaches were some sort of low-level felony
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:49 am to
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i know for a fact that DOE in particular is very reluctant to share data


Superintendent John White admitted to sharing SSN's with private companies at the legislative committee meeting.

CrazyCrawfish seems to have been on to something.
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