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Sealing a cedar fence...What do y'all use?

Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:57 pm
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28191 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:57 pm
Is there any way to keep it looking good?
I'd like to keep,that cedar look for awhile.

I've heard mixed reviews on Thompson's.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:58 pm to
TWP gets good reviews, not sure how it does on cedar.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16588 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

Is there any way to keep it looking good?


If "looking good" means preventing it from weathering as it naturally will then you are out of luck unless you plan on spending a small fortune on spar varnish and applying it every other season or so. At best with Flood or Sikkens you will be spraying every year.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:09 pm to
Thompson's
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28191 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:14 pm to
So basically y'all are saying its going to gray anyway, but the sealer will help the wood?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16588 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:32 pm to
Sealer will only delay and if you aren't careful using it you'll have stripes in the fence where it weathers unevenly.
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5745 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:58 pm to
Don't seal cedar

Or redwood

You will regret it
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16588 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:03 pm to
I think weathered cedar looks just fine. Same goes for teak. I've seen plenty of ruined cedar window shutters because the owners kept treating them and sanding them.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28191 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:11 pm to
OK, not gonna seal.

I will post results in 10 years.
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
10702 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:45 pm to
I'm 6 years into mine. Gets better looking each year.

I actually keep a few boards stacked outside behind the fence so if I replace any they look the same.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 7:56 am to
OK, not gonna seal.

I will post results in 10 years.


VetteGuy, here's something to consider. A friend of mine built a gorgeous 2800 sf, Cracker style house with ceder siding and wrap around porches that is now 25 yrs. old.

I noticed the richness of the stain he had on it and asked what he used. He chuckled, and told me it was old automatic transmission fluid he recovered from the maintenance dept. from the local pulp mill. My immediate thought was fire hazard but I don't know if it is anymore a fire hazard than any oil based stain.

I will say that the siding has had no bug damage in over twenty five years and the wood looks as good as it did the first day he put it up.

That oughta work just fine for a ceder fence.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28191 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:08 am to
I've heard about oil, but not ATF.

The thompsons I was going to use was just sealer, not stain.
Not sure if it's oil-based or what?

This thread is just about equal to what I've read on the net, excellent replies.

Folks seem pretty evenly divided on sealing or not, and sure enough, the only way to keep it looking new is to stain it. I think that turns it into something you have to deal with every 3-4 years.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:23 am to
Folks seem pretty evenly divided on sealing or not, and sure enough, the only way to keep it looking new is to stain it. I think that turns it into something you have to deal with every 3-4 years.

This is true. He told me he applied it through a pump up spray canister.
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5745 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:33 am to
you can pressure wash it with a little bleach mixed in and it will rejuvinate it pretty good.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:23 am to
you can pressure wash it with a little bleach mixed in and it will rejuvinate it pretty good.

Pressure washers work well in this application.

People need to be aware of how they go about it though. Never wash against the grain, this causes fuzzing of the wood and washes away the grain if you apply to much pressure. With most home owned or rented pressure washers, there is no way to determine the operating pressure, it's preset to around 1200- 3000psi depending on what machine you have.

Anything over 1200 psi can damage the wood. The best way to avoid this is by using the 45* orifice, and then getting the spray just close enough to begin removing the weathering or mildew and wash parallel to the grain.
Posted by j4lsu
Pineville
Member since Aug 2006
2926 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:57 am to
sorry to ... but still a little on point...

i was given a swing made out of cypress... i was told to "treat" it before putting out in weather... any info/thoughts on this from the ob would be appreciated.

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Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65045 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:31 am to
I've never treated Cypress
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:55 am to
sorry to ... but still a little on point...

i was given a swing made out of cypress... i was told to "treat" it before putting out in weather... any info/thoughts on this from the ob would be appreciated.

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I'm with broke on this. I've never treated Cypress for outdoor use. In fact, I don't know of a better wood than Cypress for outdoor use, with exception to Teak, which no one should afford if you have access to Cypress.

Wilson Cypress Co. once the second largest Cypress Mill in the world was located in my home town. There are old homes and camps along the river where I live made of Cypress that have been here over 150 years. Still rock solid.
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
6941 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:56 pm to
You don't want to seal Cedar. Cedar has a naturally weatherproofing process. I believe it has something to do with the sap that is inside the wood. The only problem is that it doesn't look great over time because of the discoloring/browning.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:02 pm to
You don't want to seal Cedar. Cedar has a naturally weatherproofing process. I believe it has something to do with the sap that is inside the wood. The only problem is that it doesn't look great over time because of the discoloring/browning.

I've never made the claim that it should be sealed. I did say that a friend of mine has treated / stained his with old automatic transmission fluid though. He's been doing it for 25 years and it looks as good as new.

What you say about ceder, I believe to be true. Have you ever noticed that grass and weeds hardly exist under the limbs of a ceder tree?

Something about them repels bugs and plant life.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 1:06 pm
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