Why we dont necessarily need a corner in the 1st

I still would love to see one of the top CBs with our #1 pick.

we will take a corner early, but i wouldnt count on a rookie corner being able to play lights out against the top receivers we are set to face. I think a WR could have a better impact just because of Brees as our QB.

Who are the top 3 FBs? take them all

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I feel like we are taking a corner and a wr in the first 2 rounds.

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I would love Dennard in the 1st and Jordan Matthews in the 2nd.

Ill have to take your word on the rankings and drop offs, but I can see what youre saying. this draft could remind me of a possible trade up if we really like someone at either position. possibly just trying to move up in the 2nd

We also had Gay that year. And you forgot how decimated we were at CB. By half the season, Greer and Porter were hardly playing down the stretch. We signed like three dudes off the street.

I think having great safety play will help out tremendously, but Lewis is our only real shutdown corner. Lewis just isn't a #2 and who knows how Prob will come back. You'd basically be putting your eggs all in one basket with Lewis and if he goes down, you're absolutely screwed.

Do you not remember what happened in Philly when he went down? Foles went after White immediately and they damn near won that game. Sorry, but to me it's simply a necessity. Whether they draft a guy in the 1-3 round, we just need more good bodies. Hell, even bring a bargain guy in via FA. I'll be in mini meltdown mode to be honest if don't address it at all.

In this day and age just like a slot guy is basically a starter, your nickel back almost has to be as good as a starter. I'm not terrified of having Lewis, Robinson, and White as our tops guys, but you're leaving yourself absolutely no room for injury/error.

i still have some hope left for PRob. Even if he produces tho it's still the last year of his contract. keep the youthful talent infusion flowing. It's really possible the identity of the team will become defensively dominate first.

I agree. We still need a CB, but its not as big of a need as it would be if we didnt sign Byrd. And we have guys on the roster that are ok and serviceable. We have bigger needs to address in the 1st and 2nd round than CB for us right now. Hell, we were a top 5 pass D last season, and we improved.

And there are some great value CBs in the mid rounds this year.

Phillip Gaines- Rice - 6'0 193lbs. 4.38 in the 40 with a 36.5inch vert. Great size, elite speed, ball skills. Very smooth and fluid in his backpedal and changing direction. Gets in and out of his breaks very easy. True shutdown CB. Played 1v1 with the opponents #1 WR for 2 years straight. Only allowed 13catches on 40 targets this yearwhile defending 13 others (4 interceptions, 9 PBUs) . Led the nation in PBUs in 2012 with 18. And he has 38 career PBUs, which is top 10 all time. and a Rice record. Could end up being the best CB in this draft IMO, and is projected to go in the 4th round. He is a stud.

Andre Hal- Vanderbilt - 5'10 188lbs. 4.50 in the 40 with a 35.5 inch vert. Good size and speed. Very fluid and smooth. Great in man to man. 1 of the best DBs in the SEC the last 2 years. Constantly underrated, but always shows up in games.

Ross Cockrell- Duke - 6'0 185lbs. Very physical at the LOS and in run support. Good closing speed and awareness. 1 of those CBs that just agitate and annoy WRs all game long.

Brandon Dixon- Northwest Missouri St.- 5'11 203lbs. 4.41 in the 40. Small school player that had a great day at the combine. Great size and speed and is very confident.

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ell, we were a top 5 pass D last season, and we improved.

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That's also with debatably two shut down corners in Greer and Lewis. Well only have one this year.

I'm not saying all this bc I think Prob and White are trash. I'm just saying we really need more bodies there that can step in right away. Look at Seattle. Nearly every one of their DBs could stay in the NFL and they absolutely gutted the Broncos in the Super Bowl.

Greer wasnt a shut down CB. He was a solid #2. But not a shut down guy. And its not like we struggled without him. We were still 1of the best pass D after he went down.

But as a whole unit, we will be improved in the DBfield. Last year it was a surprise that we were so good on D and especially the DBfield. This coming up year its an expectation. Rob Ryans 2nd year, KV taking the next step in his 2nd year, the upgrade at S to 1 of the best S in the game in Byrd and letting Jenkins / Harper go, and Keenan Lewis having another year in the system.

Corey White has improved every year here. PRob has had some horrible moments, but also was decent at times. We have guys that we can plug in at the #2CB. And we have 1 of the best S duo with Byrd and KV that can give a lot of help over the top.

And like the poster said, its not like we just wont grab a CB in the draft. We should. But we dont need to do it in the 1st / 2nd round.

And in regards to Seattle, this last year they only had 1 true shut down CB in Sherman. They rotated a lot of guys at the #2CB spot due to injuries, suspensions, etc. But they still were the best DB group in the NFL. And Im not saying Maxwell / Thurmond are bad or even average. Both guys are solid CBs. But they arent 2 stud lockdown CBs in the NFL. They were great because of the safety duo of Thomas and Chancellor and Sherman. Plus, when you have a stud CB and 2 great S back there and youre weaker at the other CB, you can give that side more help with your S back there.