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Something I Didn't Know: Hillary & Watergate

Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:43 pm
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:43 pm
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The now-retired general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Hillary when she worked on the Watergate investigation, says Hillary’s history of lies and unethical behavior goes back farther – and goes much deeper – than anyone realizes.

Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who was also Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair. When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.


While there is no paper trail on this, it's quite uncommon to be refused a letter of recommendation when doing that level of work, especially when you are just starting out. I've known folks that have gotten letters just for being a Congressional page (read: coffee-getter).
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:45 pm to
I didn't know this either until recently. Someone mentioned this several months ago regarding Hillary's 2016 run. Wonder how many people under 40 are aware or care.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:00 pm to
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Hillary’s history of lies and unethical behavior goes back farther




needs to be hammered. home. hard.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:01 pm to
Has it been on Pinterest?

That's the only way any female between 27 and 55 would ever see it.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 10:03 pm
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:04 pm to
Yeah, it's well known she's willing to do a lot of things in pursuit of political achievement. People will ridicule GOP members for having a sense of detachment from the American people all the time, but someone as unrelatable as Hillary doesn't get anywhere near as much disapproval.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:05 pm to
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I didn't know this either until recently. Someone mentioned this several months ago regarding Hillary's 2016 run.


Me too.

Without getting into the pros and cons of voting for Hillary Clinton for any elected position, how does anyone not come to the following conclusion regarding our national elections:

The short-sighted nature and short attention span of most Americans (all humans?), combined with a manipulative and biased media apparatus, produces a totally manufactured and scripted persona of all of our major political candidates.

Can anyone think of solutions to this problem?

I keep hoping that some person with real leadership skills, with intelligence and eloquence, style and charisma, with honesty and integrity, and an ability to communicate hard truths in simple and compelling terms, will come onto the political scene and by example, force a change in the ways that we perceive our politicians, transforming our expectations, and sending the cockroaches of the current system scurrying for cover in their brilliance.

I'm delusional.
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:06 pm to
Hey. It's Ok. Nixon was a bad man and a Republican. The ends justify the means.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:10 pm to
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it's quite uncommon to be refused a letter of recommendation when doing that level of work

I think she was a pain in the arse arguing that Nixon did not have the right to counsel.

May have been something else - or more than that.

The woman is lacking in integrity.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:11 pm to
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I keep hoping that some person with real leadership skills, with intelligence and eloquence, style and charisma, with honesty and integrity, and an ability to communicate hard truths in simple and compelling terms, will come onto the political scene and by example, force a change in the ways that we perceive our politicians, transforming our expectations, and sending the cockroaches of the current system scurrying for cover in their brilliance.

I'm delusional.


Democracy sucks a fat one, the people who pursue political office are typically the kind of folks you don't want to wield any significant power.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:16 pm to
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I think she was a pain in the arse arguing that Nixon did not have the right to counsel.

May have been something else - or more than that.


A little more along in the article Zeifman states
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Hillary, along with Marshall, Nussbaum and Doar, was determined to gain enough votes on the Judiciary Committee to change House rules and deny counsel to Nixon. And in order to pull this off, Zeifman says Hillary wrote a fraudulent legal brief, and confiscated public documents to hide her deception.

The brief involved precedent for representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding. When Hillary endeavored to write a legal brief arguing there is no right to representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding, Zeifman says, he told Hillary about the case of Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, who faced an impeachment attempt in 1970.

“As soon as the impeachment resolutions were introduced by (then-House Minority Leader Gerald) Ford, and they were referred to the House Judiciary Committee, the first thing Douglas did was hire himself a lawyer,” Zeifman said.

The Judiciary Committee allowed Douglas to keep counsel, thus establishing the precedent. Zeifman says he told Hillary that all the documents establishing this fact were in the Judiciary Committee’s public files. So what did Hillary do?

“Hillary then removed all the Douglas files to the offices where she was located, which at that time was secured and inaccessible to the public,” Zeifman said. Hillary then proceeded to write a legal brief arguing there was no precedent for the right to representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding – as if the Douglas case had never occurred.

The brief was so fraudulent and ridiculous, Zeifman believes Hillary would have been disbarred if she had submitted it to a judge.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20106 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:21 pm to
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the people who pursue political office are typically the kind of folks you don't want to wield any significant power.

o

... or allow near your debit card
... or date your sibling
... or sit next to at a football game
... or buy a shake and fries from at a drive thru window


Seriously. Imagine trying to successfully order and purchase a 10 piece box of spicy chicken, all white meat, with mashed potatoes, an extra side of red beans, a large iced tea, and a medium root beer at a Popeyes drive-thru from Nancy Pelosi. How likely is she to get that order right? I'd give 20:1 odds.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 10:31 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:28 pm to
She would just take your money & eat your chicken. Sadly, this would miss off more people than her entire political career.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:50 pm to
Meant to bump this for the day crew.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:53 pm to
HRC has a history of losing important documents during her whole career. That alone is reason enough to not put her in a position of authority. Also, if she is in fact, the smartest woman in D.C., why does she constantly say, "I don't recall" while under oath?
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