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Settle this Episode VI debate for me
Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:47 pm
Two questions:
Does Luke force choke those two pig looking guards before he is admitted to see Jabba, or is it something else that he uses to incapacitate them?
Can only Siths use the force choke ability, or is Luke channeling his father?
Does Luke force choke those two pig looking guards before he is admitted to see Jabba, or is it something else that he uses to incapacitate them?
Can only Siths use the force choke ability, or is Luke channeling his father?
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:51 pm to Jayre
He force chokes them and yes, it is a move used only by sith.
Luke is channeling his inner sith and it is a sign of his inner struggle.
Luke is channeling his inner sith and it is a sign of his inner struggle.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:02 pm to Jayre
He is making them fall asleep. I thought it was pretty obvious because it seems to me they start snoring.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:05 pm to athenslife101
quote:It looked like they were choking to me.
He is making them fall asleep. I thought it was pretty obvious because it seems to me they start snoring.
Been a while since I've seen it though.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:15 pm to Scruffy
quote:
He force chokes them and yes, it is a move used only by sith.
Luke is channeling his inner sith and it is a sign of his inner struggle.
Nerd speak for "this was another plot hole that was later ret-conned."
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:23 pm to Jayre
quote:
Settle this Return of the Jedi debate for me
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:23 pm to theunknownknight
Unless it was specifically mentioned in the movies that only Sith force choke, I don't see the big deal.
He was obviously doing it only to back them off and didn't do to make them suffer like Darth Vader did to that douche on the Death Star. It seemed a lot more "humane" than cutting some dude's arm off like Obi Wan did in the cantina.
He was obviously doing it only to back them off and didn't do to make them suffer like Darth Vader did to that douche on the Death Star. It seemed a lot more "humane" than cutting some dude's arm off like Obi Wan did in the cantina.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:33 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Well, I like my explanation better than anything Lucas could come up with.
Nerd speak for "this was another plot hole that was later ret-conned."
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:29 pm to athenslife101
quote:
I thought it was pretty obvious because it seems to me they start snoring.
Do you put your hands to your throat when start nodding off?
quote:
He force chokes them and yes, it is a move used only by sith.
I'm a pretty big SW geek, and I've never heard of that.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:33 pm to DanglingFury
It isn't like lightning which is used solely by the sith, but the Jedi tend not to use moves like force choke.
Jedi cannot produce force lightning. They can force choke, they just don't.
Jedi cannot produce force lightning. They can force choke, they just don't.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:34 pm to DanglingFury
Force Choke
Darth Vader was infamous for using Force choke on Imperial Commanders who failed or doubted him, as shown as he uses it on Moff Jerjerrod.
This was an attack via the Force that was used to crush a living being's throat, in effect choking them if used at a low level. Sith Masters used this when wanting to punish people or prove their strength to a number of individuals. Those under its effect would usually clutch at their throats. Although it was more commonly used by the Sith, it was used by Jedi as well.
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Darth Vader was infamous for using Force choke on Imperial Commanders who failed or doubted him, as shown as he uses it on Moff Jerjerrod.
This was an attack via the Force that was used to crush a living being's throat, in effect choking them if used at a low level. Sith Masters used this when wanting to punish people or prove their strength to a number of individuals. Those under its effect would usually clutch at their throats. Although it was more commonly used by the Sith, it was used by Jedi as well.
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This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:48 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Jedi cannot produce force lightning.
I always wondered why the Jedi never used it. What is the explanation for this? Why can't a Jedi produce force lightning?
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:49 pm to Scruffy
Force lightening and it's variants
Force lightning ability was not restricted to dark-siders. Jedi and other light-siders who were strong of will and character could learn this power without falling to the dark side—but its use was viewed as inherently corrupting, and most Jedi Councils forbade its use.
Some Jedi nonetheless refused to dismiss the natural power of this ability. During the Great Sith War, Jedi Master Lian Dray used Force lightning against the Sith apprentice Sindra. Revan, Meetra Surik, Jolee Bindo, Bastila Shan, and Vrook Lamar were amongst its users during the Mandalorian Wars, the Jedi Civil War and the First Jedi Purge. Plo Koon used this ability (which he called Electric Judgment) to subdue a criminal named Pommel, who had taken a hostage. Koon used Force lightning to knock Pommel out, yet claimed to have no plans to experiment with it in the future. Quinlan Vos could also employ this power effectively, and used it against the Anzat Jedi Volfe Karkko. Darrus Jeht also used Force lightning against the Dark Jedi Asajj Ventress.
Force lightning ability was not restricted to dark-siders. Jedi and other light-siders who were strong of will and character could learn this power without falling to the dark side—but its use was viewed as inherently corrupting, and most Jedi Councils forbade its use.
Some Jedi nonetheless refused to dismiss the natural power of this ability. During the Great Sith War, Jedi Master Lian Dray used Force lightning against the Sith apprentice Sindra. Revan, Meetra Surik, Jolee Bindo, Bastila Shan, and Vrook Lamar were amongst its users during the Mandalorian Wars, the Jedi Civil War and the First Jedi Purge. Plo Koon used this ability (which he called Electric Judgment) to subdue a criminal named Pommel, who had taken a hostage. Koon used Force lightning to knock Pommel out, yet claimed to have no plans to experiment with it in the future. Quinlan Vos could also employ this power effectively, and used it against the Anzat Jedi Volfe Karkko. Darrus Jeht also used Force lightning against the Dark Jedi Asajj Ventress.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:50 pm to bulldog95
There existed an advanced version of Force lightning which may have been used by the Jedi Exile and Revan in the Jedi Civil War. Its destructive potential was legendary; the apocalyptic power was known as Force storm.[22][23] Galen Marek used this power on the giant sarlacc on Felucia during his duel with Shaak Ti.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:52 pm to bulldog95
Colors
While most Force Lightning manifested itself as blue, it could appear in several hues, though whether or not the color is distinctive was unclear. For example, Palpatine, Darth Bane and Darth Nox had all used purple lightning. The Hidden One used white. Talzin and Mother were seen using green. Dark side users like Darth Desolous, Darth Tenebrous, Son and Luke Skywalker were seen wielding red. Jaina Solo also used a highly unusual color variant, in the form of black.[54]
While most Force Lightning manifested itself as blue, it could appear in several hues, though whether or not the color is distinctive was unclear. For example, Palpatine, Darth Bane and Darth Nox had all used purple lightning. The Hidden One used white. Talzin and Mother were seen using green. Dark side users like Darth Desolous, Darth Tenebrous, Son and Luke Skywalker were seen wielding red. Jaina Solo also used a highly unusual color variant, in the form of black.[54]
Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:03 am to bulldog95
Well, I've been corrected.
I had read in the past that the Jedi could perform a variant of the force lightning, but it wasn't up to par with the Sith's version.
Guess I was wrong.
I had read in the past that the Jedi could perform a variant of the force lightning, but it wasn't up to par with the Sith's version.
Guess I was wrong.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 5:48 am to Jayre
quote:
Can only Siths use the force choke ability, or is Luke channeling his father?
What I have heard, from books taking place beyond Episode VI, was that Luke always walked a fine line between Dark and Light. He leaned to the Light side of the force but he was constantly right on the edge.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:25 am to Scruffy
It never happened in the movies only in the books and maybe a few cartoons.
I would have never known if not for wookipedia.
I would have never known if not for wookipedia.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:55 am to bulldog95
So the mitochondrians or whatever make the lightning too? The Sith have the same mitos as the Jedi? Then their powers must be the same.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:20 am to biglego
It isn't the fact that they have the same powers or not, it's what it takes to generate the powers.
The emotions/mental state to bring forth the sith powers corrupts. Therefore, a Jedi using a power designated for the sith runs a risk of corruption and falling to the dark side.
At least that is from what I understand.
The emotions/mental state to bring forth the sith powers corrupts. Therefore, a Jedi using a power designated for the sith runs a risk of corruption and falling to the dark side.
At least that is from what I understand.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 9:20 am
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