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1994 would have been one of the most memorable seasons ever in MLB

Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:52 am
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:52 am
'94 could've been an epic year for MLB. I mean, it could have had some lasting impacts and long term consequences for the league today. I present my case:

* Does Tony Gwynn have a chance at hitting .400? He was at .394 with only 50 games to go against a terrible division.

* The AL West could've sent a team to the playoffs with a losing record. The Rangers led the division and were 10 under .500.

* White Sox and Indians were battling it out in the AL central with KC only 4 behind after winning 13 in a row. With Cone and Appier in their primes pitching lights out, does KC work their way in to a deep post season run as hot as they were?

* Would Frank Thomas have slugged near .720 for a whole season?

* Since the Indians were primed for a WS run, does the WS experience help them to win either '95 or '97 down the road?

* Would the sport's popularity have taken a hit due to a Canadian team winning the WS for the 3rd year in a row?

* This one's a long shot, but what if the Yankees would've went on to win the American League, and beat the Expos or Reds in the Series that year; knowing the Yankees at that time, isn't it a safe assumption that they wouldn't have been so eager to call up kids such as Jorge Posada, Andy Petitte, Mariano Rivera, or their big prospect at the time, Derek Jeter, but more than likely would've packaged them up in trades for veterans? The great Yankees era of '96-(present) might not have happened.

* Would Fred McGriff have 500 HRs and thus be a Hall of Famer? He only needs 7 more HRs in 50 games to do it.

* Griffey and Matt Williams had 40 and 43 HRS, respectively with 50-51 games to go. Could they have broken Maris' record that year? If Griffey broke it, would there be steroid controversy around it? Would 1998 not be as memorable because the record would only be 4 years old? Would baseball be much more popular than it is today?

* Montreal led the league with 74 wins with an amazing team. (Cliff Floyd, Mike Lansing, Wil Cordero, Sean Berry, Moises Alou, Larry Walker, Marquis Grissom, Pedro, Jeff Fassero, Ken Hill, Kirk Rueter, John Wetteland, Mel Rojas, Gil Heredia) This team was incredibly balanced. It had great defense, speed, power, an ace pitcher, and a star closer. If Montreal makes a deep run or wins the world series, does Larry Walker and Pedro re-sign? Does increased fan base and interest mean the Expos are still in Montreal today? Expos-Indians WS would've been fricking incredible.



I realize not all of these things or even most of these things would've happened, but '94 would've still been one of the better seasons in MLB history IMO.


Posted by barry
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:53 am to
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Montreal led the league with 74 wins with an amazing team. (Cliff Floyd, Mike Lansing, Wil Cordero, Sean Berry, Moises Alou, Larry Walker, Marquis Grissom, Pedro, Jeff Fassero, Ken Hill, Kirk Rueter, John Wetteland, Mel Rojas, Gil Heredia) This team was incredibly balanced. It had great defense, speed, power, an ace pitcher, and a star closer. If Montreal makes a deep run or wins the world series, does Larry Walker and Pedro re-sign? Does increased fan base and interest mean the Expos are still in Montreal today? Expos-Indians WS would've been fricking incredible.



This is the biggest tragedy from the shortened season. Expos were staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:54 am to
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This is the biggest tragedy from the shortened season. Expos were staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked



Yep. and the Braves were fuuuuuuuuuuucked.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:55 am to
I think Matt Williams would definitely have broken Maris' record.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:55 am to
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I think Matt Williams would definitely have broken Maris' record.


I don't know about definitely, but he did hit 62 HRs over a 162 game span if you include the beginning of the '95 season.
Posted by ellunchboxo
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:56 am to
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I think Matt Williams would definitely have broken Maris' record.


This makes me sad.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:56 am to
Henry led them in ERA that season, like 20 starts
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:58 am to
As for the Yankee thing, I don't think it's out of the question that at least one of them would have been moved, but probably not all of them.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:59 am to
Eh, I don't think so.... If any it would have been Posada as the Yankees had Mike Stanley/Nokes/Leyritz at C
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:59 am to
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As for the Yankee thing, I don't think it's out of the question that at least one of them would have been moved, but probably not all of them.



Jeter would've been safe because of positional premium. I believe that 2/3 of Posada, Pettite or Rivera would've been moved without a doubt.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:02 pm to
Nah, Yankees at the time were giving a lot of young guys a shot.

Bob Melvin was a utility player on the 94 Yankees team... Fun fact
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:03 pm to
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Would the sport's popularity have taken a hit due to a Canadian team winning the WS for the 3rd year in a row?


Ill put it this way... The blue jays had over 50,000 every home game until the strike... in 1995 I bet they didn't hit 30,000 once most crowds were in the 15,000 range..


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Does Tony Gwynn have a chance at hitting .400? He was at .394 with only 50 games to go against a terrible division.



Very possible...


Posted by T
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:06 pm to
it still is one of the most memorable seasons ever in MLB
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:09 pm to
even though I was a braves fan I was really rooting for bagwell that year
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:10 pm to
I was 6 years old during the 1994 season. 1993 was the first season I can remember paying attention to as a kid. My dad worked for the Rangers when I was a kid so I was exposed to a lot of it.

Things I remember from 1994:

-Rangers opening day vs. the Brewers, first game at new park

-Jose Canseco hitting a home run off the back of the visitors bullpen vs. the Mariners in June

-How the Mariners completely owned the Rangers apart from that the entire season, and basically how they owned the Rangers during the entire 1990s

-Being at Kenny Rogers perfect game vs. the Angels
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:10 pm to
Bagwell won the mvp that year also. He broke his hand rt before the strike. he would not have won if the season continued.
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:11 pm to
You did not mention John Olerud or Andres Gallaraga. Weren't they both batting over .370?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:11 pm to
This almost seems like the baseball equivalent of the Jimi Hendrix question.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:12 pm to
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* Griffey and Matt Williams had 40 and 43 HRS, respectively with 50-51 games to go. Could they have broken Maris' record that year? If Griffey broke it, would there be steroid controversy around it? Would 1998 not be as memorable because the record would only be 4 years old? Would baseball be much more popular than it is today?



Both of which were greater than Bagwell's 39, who had just been injured. Which one of these (or who else) would be the MVP, since the league's MVP that season wouldn't have finished playing the season?


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* Would Fred McGriff have 500 HRs and thus be a Hall of Famer? He only needs 7 more HRs in 50 games to do it.


I like to think that he would've hit 500 HR for his career, but that his HOF status wouldn't have changed because of it.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 12:13 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:12 pm to
We lost a division title that year
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