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re: Crimea is about to secede from Ukraine (frigging spelling)
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:09 pm to JDMMonroeTiger
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:09 pm to JDMMonroeTiger
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After Russia gets the Crimea, this is Putin's next move. He will say it's what the people want.
He will go after the Red states in the U.S. next.
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:10 pm to davesdawgs
Red good one
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:23 pm to JDMMonroeTiger
I was agreeing with you it was sarcasm on reference to how others are treating this
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:36 pm to Adam Banks
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I have been to the eastern half of Ukraine not in the penninsula. There's a ton of ethnically Russian people there. Does Russia get that too?
First, I'm not taking a position on the legitimacy of Russia's actions. Just pointing out some interesting factors.
I would argue that there is a vast difference in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. Russians make only 17% of Ukraines total population (Ukrainians are 87%.) It is true that in certain regions of Eastern Ukraine, Russians make up about 1/3 of the total population.
However, the vast majority of ethnic Russians living in Ukraine live in Crimea. They make up around 60% of the total population of Crimea.
So while there are a lot of Ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine, it's not even half the number as in Crimea . . . and its certainly not a majority.
But again, I think Russia's primary concern here is Sevastopol.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:53 pm to BlownderLSU
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I work in Downtown Houston
Sucks to be you
I'm off 10/Voss quote:
I've never had a Mexican beg me for money. They take pride in their work and pride in taking care of themselves and their families.
A very resourceful people agreed.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 1:07 pm to idlewatcher
The US military is sending 12 F-16 fighter jets to Poland for a training exercise, according to Polish media reports. The Polish defence ministry has not confirmed the reports, says Reuters.
Earlier, the US Air Force announced it was sending six additional F-15 jets to Lithuania to bolster the existing "Baltic Air Police" mission there.
Earlier, the US Air Force announced it was sending six additional F-15 jets to Lithuania to bolster the existing "Baltic Air Police" mission there.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 1:19 pm to Antonio Moss
My understanding is that where there is industry (eastern cities) there is a Russian majority. I'd be surprised if anyone has accurate percentages of ethnicity in cities and regions. A general rule of thumb seems to be that whatever language an area speaks determines which side they're on. Odessa seems to be an exception to this rule.
One thing that we can all agree on is that this situation is a dangerous mess. Let's hope it plays out safely for all involved.
One thing that we can all agree on is that this situation is a dangerous mess. Let's hope it plays out safely for all involved.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 1:53 pm to rebeloke
This is the way it should go down. If the people in that region want to be allied with Russia, let the majority rule. Do it peacefully according to the will of the people.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:45 pm to BeerCity
It will go down just that way.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:54 pm to asurob1
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The US military is sending 12 F-16 fighter jets to Poland
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the US Air Force announced it was sending six additional F-15 jets to Lithuania
were also sending a guided missle destroyer (or whatever) to the Black Sea.
Nice show of military movements along with economic and diplomatic sanctions. About all that can be done... except....
I advocate calling Putin's bluff. He says the forces in Crimea arent under his command. Id start moving major assets that direction and send the message that since these arent Russion forces, NATO/US will assist liberating Crimea from rogue occupation at the request of Ukraine.
then watch Putin shite his pants.
totally call that bullshite. He'll own up to it real quick, lest he abaondon his own troops and risk them being overrun by US/NATO.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:06 pm to rebeloke
I bet the people who are not ethnic Russian who live there are pissed as frick
Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:08 pm to rebeloke
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Russia has justified interest in being in the Ukraine. Now you know why
Not really since its not there country
Posted on 3/6/14 at 5:25 pm to BobBoucher
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then watch Putin shite his pants.
Then you can also watch me shitting my pants. It would be too close to world war. And it may be the last one.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 5:43 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Do they not use the textbook of a certain 13% of the US Population: Scream inequality at every turn, demand handouts, Support and vote for ones in power that want to keep them on handouts? It's worked very well for them here.
Russians make only 17% of Ukraines total population
Posted on 3/6/14 at 6:46 pm to Sevendust912
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Polish officials also claimed that the U.S. was sending 12 F-16s to Poland, along with 300 U.S. troops. The Pentagon, though, said no decision had been made, though "Secretary Hagel is committed to increasing our participation in the aviation detachment in Poland, a detachment he visited recently."
The U.S. Navy also announced it is sending a guided-missile destroyer to the Black Sea as part of a "scheduled" deployment.
In other news:
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Texas governor Rick Perry (R) announced that he was sending one (1) Texas Ranger to the Ukraine in order offset the increased Russian military presence and to use for security for the US Embassy and the US Ambassador.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:43 pm to rebeloke
Nikita Khrushchev's granddaughter was on Chris Hayes' show tonight and she said that John Kerry should get on about the business of negotiating the terms of Crimea's separation from Ukraine because Putin is never going to give it back.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:47 pm to rebeloke
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It will go down just that way.
Is any of this due in some measure to the "balkanization" of the former USSR?
Ethnic families left in areas not usually attributed to them after the break up?
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:59 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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I bet the people who are not ethnic Russian who live there are pissed as frick
i am thinking the tatars in the crimea will be (or already have been) contacted by their muslim buddies in the caucasus emirate about how to resist russian occupation.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:06 pm to germandawg
quote:close the border to non-Texans, shoot on site if you try to cross illegally.
Just out of curiosity how ya'll going to defeat Mexico?
Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:18 pm to BobBoucher
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He'll own up to it real quick, lest he abaondon his own troops and risk them being overrun by US/NATO.
I endorse this plan.
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