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I like the age minimum thread/discussion and thought I would start a new one with links to general NBA topics.

First, Beckley Mason on the lack of sleep due to NBA travel and it's impact on the product.

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Harvard Medical School Professor Dr. Charles Czeisler, who spoke at Sloan, is one such consultant. He began working with the Trail Blazers and Celtics in 2008 and made a believer out of Doc Rivers by predicting a bad loss, months in advance, just by looking at the schedule. 



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Losing even one night of sleep significantly impairs reaction time and the ability to quickly spot visual signals. In a sport where tenths of a second are the difference between a timely defensive rotation and a dunk that ends up on SportsCenter, this stuff really matters. Lack of sleep also diminishes testosterone levels -- a week of sleeping four hours a night can reduce a 25-year-old’s testosterone level to that of a 36-year-old -- and increases the body’s inflammatory response. 


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In the NBA, sometimes the schedule is a team’s toughest competition. It’s not how much or how hard they play that wears players down, it’s how rarely they can get a great night’s sleep to replenish their mental, physical and emotional reserves. 


Pels are poor right now, regardless of sleep. But travel, season grind can explain listless performances.

And Pop on his offensive philosophy

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There are a lot of good shots, but if you can turn that into a great shot, percentages go through the roof. Contested shots are really bad shots. People’s percentage goes down almost by 20, almost without exception. All those things in an offense are things a coach is always trying to develop. It takes time to get everybody to the point where they all buy in and understand how it’s good for the group to do things.

“You want to penetrate not just for you, but for a teammate. Penetrating because I want to make things happen. It could be for me. It could be for a teammate. It could be for the pass after the pass I make. As people start to realize that, then you get a flow and people start playing basketball rather than just running the play that’s called or making up their minds ahead of time.”



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Q. How do you get players to take ownership of the offense? Is it a confidence thing?

Popovich: “That’s a good question. A lot depends on the competitiveness and the character of the player. Often times, I’ll appeal to that. Like, I can’t make every decision for you. I don’t have 14 timeouts. You guys got to get together and talk. You guys might see a mismatch that I don’t see. You guys need to communicate constantly — talk, talk, talk to each other about what’s going on on the court.


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Sometimes in timeouts I’ll say, ‘I’ve got nothing for you. What do you want me to do? We just turned it over six times. Everybody’s holding the ball. What else do you want me to do here? Figure it out.’ And I’ll get up and walk away. Because it’s true. There’s nothing else I can do for them. I can give them some bulls—, and act like I’m a coach or something, but it’s on them.

“If they’re holding the ball, they’re holding the ball. I certainly didn’t tell them to hold the ball. Just like, if they make five in a row, I didn’t do that. If they get a great rebound, I didn’t do that. It’s a players’ game and they’ve got to perform. The better you can get that across, the more they take over and the more smoothly it runs.


He's just the best.

ETA: I'm just going to bump this thread with new links



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Popovich: “That’s a good question.




did pop just praise a reporter?






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Knowledge is power.





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...awesome...i love Popovich...it's impossible not to like the guy.

...keep the career going, Pops...when Duncan and Parker are done, hop on over and coach Davis and Holiday.






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I like the age minimum thread/discussion and thought I would start a new one with links to general NBA topics.

First, Beckley Mason on the lack of sleep due to NBA travel and it's impact on the product.


While it's difficult to feel sorry for a bunch of young millionaires playing basketball for a living, I can understand what Doc Rivers is saying. On back to back road games, these guys will usually leave straight from the Arena after the game, to the next city, arriving at their hotel anytime in the middle of the night, depending on how far they had to travel. Next morning wake up early enough to do film study, game plan, eat, shoot around, and then do it all over again.



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You forgot about the naps, groupie sex and weed that almost all of them smoke..





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Also, they're finishing games and leaving the locker room after 10 most nights, and then meeting the families and people with player passes after that. Then they board the bus to the plane and fly to play the next night.

Segababas have to blow, especially if you're traveling a long way.






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I know someone who has traveled with a team on a road trip. It was hard on him and he wasn't playing. Midnight flights, early morning hotel check ins, 3 cities in 3 days, etc. NBA schedule is easily the most brutal.

Some more link goodness

The excellent Drive and Kick podcast with DraftExpress discussing 2014 draft

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And how the best set plays are made.

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I know someone who has traveled with a team on a road trip. It was hard on him and he wasn't playing. Midnight flights, early morning hotel check ins, 3 cities in 3 days, etc. NBA schedule is easily the most brutal.



just think about what the pelicans had to do on this most recent road trip. back to back games on road trips should not be allowed. i wonder what the record is for away teams on that. i'll try to find it.






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I posted in this thread yesterday, forgot about it, and then, upon seeing it today, wondered if it contained links about potential SF and C targets.





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McNamara had a good write up on sf/c targets this summer last week on BSS. LINK

I still have no idea why Demps didnt go after Jordan Hamilton at the trade deadline. Unless I'm missing something, it was just Aaron Brooks for Hamilton straight up. Brooks is not better than Roberts. Connelly wouldn't have sent his old boss spare part for spare part?

I can't believe they wouldn't want to take a chance on a young 3 even if Roberts is one of the two healthy "pgs."






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I still have no idea why Demps didnt go after Jordan Hamilton at the trade deadline. Unless I'm missing something, it was just Aaron Brooks for Hamilton straight up. Brooks is not better than Roberts. Connelly wouldn't have sent his old boss spare part for spare part?


McNamara said (speculated I assume, Bruins can clear it up for us) that we didn't offer Roberts. If that's true that says 1 of 3 things.

1) Seats are hot and the FO thinks Roberts will help us win more than adding Hamilton to the mix.
2) They plan, or at least want the option of bringing back Roberts. If you trade a player you can't get him back for a year now. Why give up Roberts for a guy you can just sign in FA?
3) They have no interest in Hamilton. Maybe Demps is targeting another SF, or a big with his MLE money.

I'm leaning towards 1. Gordon, Tyreke and Rivers are not real PGs. Not that Roberts' TO rate is any better than those 3, but I know I don't want Gordon being the primary ball handler.






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If it was 1, they must have had hope Holiday was coming back. I can't believe they thought they were making a run to respectability without him. Which means Roberts is even less important.

This comes back to the system they run that relies on lots of ball pounding by a pg. Dumb to keep Roberts to “run" the offense.

And why in the world would they not want the rights to a younger player at a position of need?

Even if they don't want to keep Hamilton, you know what you have in Roberts. You know Holiday, Evans, and maybe Gordon/Rivers, are coming back. You can find a Roberts again.

ETA: And Pierre Jackson may be on board next season. I just don't see it



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they must have had hope Holiday was coming back


They squashed those rumors pretty quickly and Jim Eichenhofer even tweeted about "irresponsible reporting" when people asked him if Jrue was coming back. I think the team knew he wasn't close.

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run to respectability


The goal may not be running to respectability but running to 30, 32, 35 or some set number of wins Loomis/Benson have established as the firing line. Costing yourself a game or 2 while establishing a new starting PG may have seemed like a big risk.






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The goal may not be running to respectability but running to 30, 32, 35 or some set number of wins Loomis/Benson have established as the firing line. Costing yourself a game or 2 while establishing a new starting PG may have seemed like a big risk.


Ugh. If Benson/Loomis drew a line in the sand without context, I have some big worries.

Plus I would contend that better wing play would help them get those wins more than worrying about mediocre guard play.






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Fascinating article from Hickory High looking at SportVU numbers.

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On Davis as a rim protector

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Anthony Davis, despite leading the league in blocks, is not actually an especially effective rim protector. Though he does hold opponents to around 45 percent shooting at the rim, he only contests around 28 percent of opponents’ rim attempts, on par with noted help stalwarts Carlos Boozer, Andrea Bargnani and Boris Diaw. Therefore, despite his lofty block totals and good ability to force misses when he’s present, his relative inability to contest shots renders him below average in this metric, costing New Orleans about .5 pts/gm


More reason to match Davis up on centers? Though he does add this

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Of course, rim protection is not the sum total of a player’s (even a big man’s) defensive contributions. How much of Davis’ relative dearth of contests are as a result of New Orleans’ schemes which often have him aggressively trapping the pick-and-roll, and how much is it simply Davis having just turned 21 and not yet able to rotate quite as quickly as the NBA game demands? Unfortunately, the public data can’t tell us that, yet


Also on Evans

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Well, a combination of SportVU generated stats and traditional box score numbers allow’s an estimation of a player’s total offensive role. I’ve named the metric “True Usage” as it is intended to be an addition to or replacement for traditional usage rate. Essentially True Usage combines a player’s shots, turnovers and assist chances into one number to estimate the percentage of his team’s possessions with which the player is directly involved


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Of the players with the top 24 TrueUsage rates, 20 are pure point guards, two (Brandon Knight and Tyreke Evans) are combo guards with significant ball-handling and playmaking responsibilities and two are LeBron and Kevin Durant.


Interesting stuff as the debate on Evans as SF rages on here. He may be listed as SF, but he that isn't the role he plays on the court.







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Interesting stuff as the debate on Evans as SF rages on here. He may be listed as SF, but he that isn't the role he plays on the court.


Despite his recent good numbers (YAY POINTS), his defensive rating is pretty terrible. He probably would benefit from turning Gordon into a 3 and D SF to let him play more SG.






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Despite his recent good numbers (YAY POINTS), his defensive rating is pretty terrible


I saw that.

I don't know how much we can attribute to Evans starting or just general malaise. He's got some holes on defense, but he isn't a one man wrecking ball on defense. And allowing Milwaukee and LAL to torch you is not just on one guy.

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He probably would benefit from turning Gordon into a 3 and D SF to let him play more SG.


Yep. Really, just more size in the backcourt and on the wing would help. The flexibility means you can hide Evans on the weakest guy.

Here's another one I saw from Mike Prada this week on less hard hedging we've seen for a while. He uses some images from recent games to describe this.

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It's always more difficult than it appears to nail down a team's pick-and-roll scheme. We like to think there's one default plan, but in reality, every team has different coverages that depend on the players involved and location on the floor.

That said, it seems like the Pelicans are shifting strategies. Previously, Monty Williams' club would ask its big men to jump out high on pick-and-rolls

But things may be changing a bit, due perhaps to the presence of slower-footed big men like Alexis Ajinca and Greg Stiemsma. Notice Ajinca's positioning in this pick-and-roll

They'll still use Davis to hard hedge at times, most notably in Friday's loss to the Suns, but it's happening less often with everyone else. And even Davis occasionally is laying back a bit instead of coming all the way out:

It's too early to say if this is a long-term shift, and even the most rigid defensive systems must be adjusted to account for unique matchups like Stephen Curry and Channing Frye.

But with their season lost, now's as good a time as any for Williams to experiment with different looks.



Also some great stuff sampling younger players (via Thompson and Beal) in that link



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Hoop Idea on using TOs in end of game situations

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In a follow-up, I presented a further wrinkle: that as useful as timeouts can be, there are plenty of times when a timeout hurts the offense. As much as anything, they give coaches, many with insecure jobs, the chance to put their imprint on the final moments and fulfill the perhaps ill-placed expectations of their profession. But do they do that at the expense of spontaneous play, which can lead to easy buckets?


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Thanks to the people at NBA.com/stats, we now have some insight. According to their research, NBA teams are more likely to score in crunch time if they don't call timeout. It turns out that in no scenario were teams more likely to make a shot when they called timeout.



There are some holes in the data

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Some more important notes from the NBA's stats wizards:

Second-chance points are excluded.

Points from foul shots are also excluded, which means we are looking at field goal percentages as opposed to points per possession, which is the ultimate metric for how well an offense works.

Fast-break opportunities (which would typically only come from non-timeout scenarios) are excluded.

We don’t know why the offense called timeout. If it was to rescue a bad possession, and leaves only a handful of seconds on the clock that hurts the “out of timeouts” side of the data by absorbing a low percentage shot from the no-timeouts data set.

The data comes from the last four-and-a-half seasons from opening day in 2007 'til now.


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Battier would prefer to “take it in, rush it up and get it to your best attacker going to the hoop,” he says. "I'm surprised at how many times coaches call a timeout to draw up an ISO. It's like, ‘Really? You took a timeout to draw up an ISO?’ That's my pet peeve as a player watching the game."






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Maybe it's because the Monty Haters have very little faith in the out of bounds plays this team runs, but I think the primary complaint about Monty and timeouts is not doing a good job of stopping momentum when the other team starts making a run.

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Battier would prefer to “take it in, rush it up and get it to your best attacker going to the hoop,” he says. "I'm surprised at how many times coaches call a timeout to draw up an ISO. It's like, ‘Really? You took a timeout to draw up an ISO?’ That's my pet peeve as a player watching the game."


Yeah, it seems like the primary reason to call the time out is to switch personnel and advance the ball. Especially later in the season you should have some go to plays and players if you're not a revolving door lineup like the oft injured Pelicans.






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