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Should Russia intervene when the CIA gets involved in Central America

Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:12 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:12 am
Just curious. We have time and time again help installed leaders in various Central American countries. I wonder what we would think if Russia threatened military involvement to stop us?
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:15 am to
What does this have to do with Film credits?




Just kidding, having some fun on a Sunday morning.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125401 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:17 am to
The CIA involvement down there is heavily tied to the war on drugs so take it for what its worth.

I come from an area with lots of central Americans esp El Salvador and they thank American all the time for stepping in.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:29 am to
No. Because 1) we are mainly in South America helping countries fight drug lords and 2) Russia isn't the most powerful nation on earth. We can wave our big stick. They can't.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:33 am to
The CIA is not a military force. They are agents. You don't think that the Russians have agents in Central America right now?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Should Russia intervene when the CIA gets involved in Central America
"Should" is irrelevant. Russia HAS gotten involved in S America when the CIA was involved there.

You once again prove you are out of touch with reality.
Posted by TWD7105
Member since Feb 2014
130 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:42 am to
Stick to tax credits
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:43 am to
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Stick to tax credits
Me?
Posted by TWD7105
Member since Feb 2014
130 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:43 am to
No IB
Posted by willthezombie
the graveyard
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Should Russia intervene when the CIA gets involved in Central America


only if they buy tax credits from film companies
Posted by rcd0808
Member since Jun 2013
876 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:46 am to
OMG TWD. Learn the ways of TD. You look like a noob IMO FWIW TBH.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:47 am to
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OMG TWD. Learn the ways of TD. You look like a noob IMO FWIW TBH.





Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98930 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:51 am to
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Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause if it leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:59 am to
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No. Because 1) we are mainly in South America helping countries fight drug lords and 2) Russia isn't the most powerful nation on earth. We can wave our big stick. They can't.


Our strategy in South America has little to do with helping other countries. Our strategies (shhhh this is a big secret) have nothing to do with helping anything other than one of the many American interests. Any help or assistance we may provide to another government or organization must at its most basic level, aid in American national defense or security. I am sure that you understand this, so I fail to see why you have chosen to characterize our actions in SA, or anywhere for that matter, as altruistic. While many of you may disagree, I think comparisons to American involvement in SA, the ME, and Europe all have similarities to Russia's involvement in Ukraine. Don't construe this comment to mean that I believe they are in perfect parallel. Also, your qualifier of "mainly" is a weak out for your statement.

Now that being said, I prefer that the government not take actions for altruistic reasons, I also prefer that people not SUPPORT actions supposedly done for the benefit of other countries or altruistic fantasy. Inevitably when our government characterizes an action in this manner, it is to disguise what would be an otherwise unpopular act or policy. Typically one that will be very expensive in monetary and human terms. I have said it many times, taking action for the benefit of others is the worst reason for a government to take action. I mean that on every possible level.


These are good reads for anyone who really gives a shite about American conflict and interdiction.

Title 10

Title 32

Title 50

After even a brief review of those documents, it becomes clear that spending money to "help" other countries, organizations, ideas, or movements is NOT AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56317 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 11:00 am to
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I wonder what we would think if Russia threatened military involvement to stop us?
Where would you suggest Russia's uniformed military begin their counter-assault on CIA operations? How would they go about proving to anyone that these operations exist, thereby validating such a "threat?"
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 11:03 am to
Oh you naive folks.

Read "The Fish That Ate the Whale". A good read about a Louisiana citizen Sam Zemurray and his activities in the banana business in Central America.

LINK

When were bananas classified as drugs?

Oh and there was that Nicargua thing.

I am not saying we should not have been involved in Nicaragua--it is much closer to home than the Ukraine but we have no moral standing to criticize Russian involvement in a close neighbors affairs.
Posted by rcd0808
Member since Jun 2013
876 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 11:04 am to
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I am not saying we should not have been involved in Nicaragua--it is much closer to home than the Ukraine but we have no moral standing to criticize Russian involvement in a close neighbors affairs.


If you'd read McCarton's post above you'd realize that moral standing has nothing to do with foreign policy.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112456 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 11:10 am to
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I am not saying we should not have been involved in Nicaragua--it is much closer to home than the Ukraine but we have no moral standing to criticize Russian involvement in a close neighbors affairs.


OK. So we would have no moral standing to criticize Hitler for invading Poland? It's his neighbor. Has nothing to do with us.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 11:10 am to
quote:

we have no moral standing

(In my best Jim Mora voice):

"Moral standing?!? Moral standing?!? Are you kidding me?!? Moral standing!?!"
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 11:17 am to
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I wonder what we would think if Russia threatened military involvement to stop us?


ah....the old Ron Paul "how would we feel?" thesis on national security and foreign policy.
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