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Why you shouldn't worry TOO much about CB in the draft/FA...
Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:18 pm
after Greer went out in the SF game, the Saints allowed just 202 passing yards per game @ 6.8 YPA (consistent with our season average, good for 8th best in the league). The 202 yards/game would be good for 4th. They did allow a poor TD/INT ratio in that span (11/2), but when you're shutting down the passing game like that, limited turnovers isn't a big deal. And allowing 1.3TD/game is a good number as well. Also, a lot of that was without our second best backfield player in KV. So while I think we'll definitely look at CB's in the draft, especially with such a deep class, don't be shocked if we don't do anything there. And don't forget that PRob was played well in 2010 before Spags came in and watched the world burn.
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:21 pm to THRILLHO
still think we need a for sure starter back there with Lewis, I don't trust PRob at all.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:27 pm to THRILLHO
The Eagles(not in great passing conditions) and the Falcons were the only good passing offenses we played after San Fran.
Would be a bad idea IMO.
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don't be shocked if we don't do anything there.
Would be a bad idea IMO.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:30 pm to THRILLHO
Corey White costs us game because of how fricking shifty he is. It seemed like Seattle threw at him every time they threw the ball. When he is on the field, we are in trouble.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:36 pm to LaBornNRaised
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Corey White costs us game because of how fricking shifty he is.
He's a solid player.
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It seemed like Seattle threw at him every time they threw the ball.
Seattle roughed up everyone in the first game. They threw for a whopping 103 yards the second game, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. The only clearly bad stretches White had were against DJax when Lewis went down and against Harry Douglas at home (he had a horrible quarter, then shut him down most of the game otherwise).
Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:42 pm to THRILLHO
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He's a solid 4th corner
Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:54 pm to saintsfan22
Wanna know how I know you don't know what you're talking about?
White is solid as a 2 and good as a 3.
White is solid as a 2 and good as a 3.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:56 pm to Rand AlThor
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Wanna know how I know you don't know what you're talking about?
White is solid as a 2 and good as a 3.
Because of your opinion
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:08 am to saintsfan22
Beside the one quarter against Douglas and one quarter against Desean Jackson, when was White bad?
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:13 am to saintsfan22
Corey White is a solid nickle corner. On the outside is a completely different story but I'd still take him over a lot of other guys like Sweeting, Wade and so on.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:17 am to THRILLHO
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Beside the one quarter against Douglas and one quarter against Desean Jackson, when was White bad?
Not coincidentally those were the two teams we played that passed the ball. Plus his absolute shite effort on tackling against St. Louis.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:49 am to saintsfan22
White is not the answer as a #2. Sorry, but you don't watch much football if you think he will cut it this year as the starting CB.
Is he a cheap nickel guy? Sure, but he is not a solid 2.
Is he a cheap nickel guy? Sure, but he is not a solid 2.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:41 am to TIGERSby10
I don't think he is the answer. We could do better for a #2 CB. But I would not be worried in a situation where Corey White is moved into the #2 corner spot because of an injury or something. He can play.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:45 am to Rand AlThor
In this NFL day and age, you cannot get away with someone like White as your #2. He's a solid nickel guy at best, and even then we still have Robinson.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:12 pm to THRILLHO
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Corey White costs us game because of how fricking shifty he is.
He's a solid player.
I agree; I believe that White is a VERY solid Nickel back. He does struggle being the "picked on" #2 though. Lewis really established himself as a potential superstar #1 (especially if he can bring in more of those pass deflections). This in turn put more pressure on White with the extra attention going his way, and he didn't respond as well as we all would have liked.
The good thing is that Whit has very good upside and the skill set to be a solid #2. I would like to bring in someone (FA or draft) to push him and PR. Robinson was also playing well when he went down.
With the 2nd year in RR's system; the DB's will also have a better understanding of the scheme (actually the defensive personnel as a whole should be better).
Posted on 3/1/14 at 4:12 pm to THRILLHO
would have been nice to see how PRob would have done this past season as part of a rejuvenated defense. But he only played in 2 games before he got hurt.
he picked off 4 passes back in 2011 and 3 more in 2012, one of which he ran back for a score.
I think some don't really trust him because of how badly he played when he finally became a full time starter in 2012. Not saying that isn't fair but I'm looking forward to seeing what he does this year with a solid group of D-lineman who can put pressure on the QB.
some of the hate he got a few years ago had to do with the secondary getting absolutely no help from the line because they weren't putting much pressure on the QB.
he picked off 4 passes back in 2011 and 3 more in 2012, one of which he ran back for a score.
I think some don't really trust him because of how badly he played when he finally became a full time starter in 2012. Not saying that isn't fair but I'm looking forward to seeing what he does this year with a solid group of D-lineman who can put pressure on the QB.
some of the hate he got a few years ago had to do with the secondary getting absolutely no help from the line because they weren't putting much pressure on the QB.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 5:11 pm to THRILLHO
You've totally sold me on a guy that cannot play the deep ball for crap(though is excellent in the slot or playing press man and defending short to mid stuff) and a guy that is often injured(even if it's smaller stuff sometimes) as well as inconsistent.
Don't get me wrong I like their potential, but that's all they've shown. Neither has proven to be a good legit number 2. I love both as slot corners though.
I don't care what those stats show. What I saw with my eyes was a guy that can consistently get abused deep and the more teams saw it the more they tried him. To play on the outside you HAVE to be able to play the deep ball.
At least Robinson can do it, but like I said he's been inconsistent and injured. And his speed(his best asset) may not be the same after the injury he suffered.
Give me a true starting outside corner and I think our defense will be scary and not just tough. Add in a speedy LB that can tackle and a true FS and we challenge Seattle.
Don't get me wrong I like their potential, but that's all they've shown. Neither has proven to be a good legit number 2. I love both as slot corners though.
I don't care what those stats show. What I saw with my eyes was a guy that can consistently get abused deep and the more teams saw it the more they tried him. To play on the outside you HAVE to be able to play the deep ball.
At least Robinson can do it, but like I said he's been inconsistent and injured. And his speed(his best asset) may not be the same after the injury he suffered.
Give me a true starting outside corner and I think our defense will be scary and not just tough. Add in a speedy LB that can tackle and a true FS and we challenge Seattle.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 5:16 pm to bonethug0108
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Don't get me wrong I like their potential, but that's all they've shown. Neither has proven to be a good legit number 2. I love both as slot corners though. I don't care what those stats show. What I saw with my eyes was a guy that can consistently get abused deep and the more teams saw it the more they tried him. To play on the outside you HAVE to be able to play the deep ball.
Agreed.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 7:42 pm to Rand AlThor
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White is solid as a 2 and good as a 3.
White has good value as a utility DB due to his ability to play multiple positions. He's not a championship caliber starting CB, though.
We're trying to win the show, folks, not make the playoffs.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 3:15 pm to THRILLHO
It's because the Saints consistently gave pressure to teams. Solidifying our front seven should be a higher priority because any good front seven will make a secondary look 10x better than they are.
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