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What should Obama do about Ukraine?

Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:54 pm
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:54 pm
You geniuses.

Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:55 pm to
Dram a line in the sand!
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:55 pm to
What difference does our opinion make? Obama will do nothing. Putin knows it.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31636 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:57 pm to
What could he realistically do that would make a difference? Shall we go to war with Russia over Ukraine ?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72103 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:59 pm to
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What could he realistically do that would make a difference? Shall we go to war with Russia over Ukraine ?
We should do nothing and we are going to do nothing.

We cannot and should not run to the aid of every country that has problems.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31636 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:59 pm to
And I was thinking that I wouldn't get a serious response.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:00 pm to
There is really nothing Obama can do.

He could try and apply strong political pressure but he is not exactly in a position to do that because he is seen as a weak sister, especially in the eyes of a relative bad arse such as Putin.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

We should do nothing and we are going to do nothing.


This, but Obama just needs to shut up before he is in too deep.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:01 pm to
Putin won't go to war with the US over Ukraine either. But he knows Obama is spineless and his bitch so he can do whatever he wants.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:02 pm to
Doing nothing includes not saying shite.

Too bad hes saying shite but not doing shite.
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:03 pm to
Shrink our military to the point where it's smaller than Iceland's. That away people will leave us alone.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72103 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:04 pm to
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This, but Obama just needs to shut up before he is in too deep.
The fault he is making is that he continuously threatens repercussions and never delivers.

He should've just resorted to condemning the actions rather than delivering threats and drawing red lines.

Far too late for that route though. He has basically castrated himself with his big talk and lack of follow through
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 6:05 pm
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:04 pm to
There isn't much he "can" do.

That being said, moving one of these full of marines into the Black Sea would put some pressure on Putin.



This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

This, but Obama just needs to shut up before he is in too deep.


Exactly.

Obama has no leverage and no position of strength from which to operate.

In that position, you don't bluff because everyone knows you are bluffing and you end up just weakening your position further for future situations.

Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

He should've just resorted to condemning the actions rather than delivering threats and drawing red lines. Far too late for that route though. He has basically castrated himself with his big talk and lack of follow through


Yes.
Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
5465 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:06 pm to
Put um on double secret line probation.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72103 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:07 pm to
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That being said, moving one of these full of marines into the Black Sea would put some pressure on Putin.
No it wouldn't. This isn't Cuba or some ME country that we can actually threaten and attack.

Threats of violence are completely meaningless here. A show of force only means something if the other side fears you or lacks the capabilities to retaliate.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 6:08 pm
Posted by Purpleye
Westworld
Member since Nov 2010
1732 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:10 pm to
Draw a pink line. The red one sure didn't work. lol
Posted by Jarlaxle
Calimport
Member since Dec 2010
2869 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:10 pm to
Obama has been emasculated by Putin long ago. He will do noting, rather just get high and sit back and watch the world burn.
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:14 pm to
What difference does it make?



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