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Question for those Louisiana natives over 35...
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:14 pm
What (if anything) did your parents and/or schools teach you about Jim Crow in Louisiana?
My answer: effectively nothing
My answer: effectively nothing
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:18 pm to Big Scrub TX
Parents: nothing
Schools: we never got past the civil war in any history class I took.
Schools: we never got past the civil war in any history class I took.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:19 pm to Big Scrub TX
Don't really remember my parents talking about it. School discussed it generally (the South, not LA).
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:21 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
My answer: effectively nothing
ETA: even if the schools and my parents tried to teach me something about the subject I most likely tuned out. During my school years I was never interested in english, history and social sciences. I gravitated toward math and science.
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:23 pm to Big Scrub TX
shite, much of it was effectively in place when I was in school.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:31 pm to VOR
quote:Saw virtually none of it until my folks moved to Detroit. What a rude awakening that was. People up there were collectively the most unapologetic bigots I've ever encountered. It felt like a castcall for Mississippi Burning.
shite, much of it was effectively in place when I was in school.
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:45 pm to Big Scrub TX
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What (if anything) did your parents and/or schools teach you about Jim Crow in Louisiana?
They didn't 'teach' Jim Crow, BS...they just practiced it. It was the cultural norm. And if somebody got out of line...the might get a visit from the 'community organizers' du jour.
You ever tried herding cats, buddy. Trying to force them the go where their nature tells em they had best not. Like with a stick. Or a government, backed by a gun.
There are better ways to do this stuff. Religion is it. But of course...that stuff is mythical, outmoded and just for the weak; on it's way out. Mmmmhuh.
Live and learn.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:07 pm to udtiger
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School discussed it generally
What sorts of things did they say?
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:07 pm to Big Scrub TX
It was covered in 8th grade La History
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:10 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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Parents: nothing
It's amazing to me how deficient they were in this regard. I think it's at least partly because the primary benefit of being in a privileged group is to not even notice the privilege that you enjoy.
My dad took me to my first away LSU game like in 1971 or something and it was at Oxford. You'd think he would have used that opportunity to start educating me on very recent history on that campus. Instead...no mention ever in my entire life.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:12 pm to Big Scrub TX
Something about movie theaters. That's all.
Eta: many would have segregated theaters today but for more legitimate reasons . It has to be said.
Eta: many would have segregated theaters today but for more legitimate reasons . It has to be said.
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:20 pm to Big Scrub TX
The schools hadn't been integrated when I was in the pubic school system. Some places still had segregation signage on their doors of them.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:52 pm to Big Scrub TX
We were segregated until I was in the 11th grade. I remember singing Dixie at some big school functions. I do remember Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, blacks in the balcony and some things like that.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:55 pm to baybeefeetz
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Eta: many would have segregated theaters today but for more legitimate reasons . It has to be said.
The blacks sat in the balcony. I don't know if they had too, but they all did.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:56 pm to mauser
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I remember singing Dixie at some big school functions.
I'm sure that would go over well today.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 2:02 pm to Big Scrub TX
We learned about segregation and Jim Crow laws in Louisiana History in the 8th grade, and more segregation in US History in high school.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 2:05 pm to Big Scrub TX
I have some first hand experience with it. I went to segregated schools until third grade, and I dimly remember separate accomodations for whites and blacks-separate waiting rooms in Dr. Offices, that sort of thing.After all that went away, no one talked about it, particularly in the schools. There was no teaching about it. Zero.
My parents raised me right, though, so I learned about it at home.
My parents raised me right, though, so I learned about it at home.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 2:07 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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Schools: we never got past the civil war in any history class I took.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 2:07 pm to CITWTT
I was pretty young at the end of Jim Crow.
I do remember separate schools, waiting rooms, etc.
In the small town in S. LA., where I grew up, there were some people who took it upon themselves to integrate before it was mandated by the CRA. A lot of that occurred because of the Catholic Church, which integrated its schools, though some historic ones, like St Augustine are still around.
LA has always been a little different from the rest of the South. Not to say that there weren't abuses and grave injustices, but because there were also inheritance laws dating from the French and Spanish, that gave property rights to a child born to a black mother, fathered by a white man. If these men acknowledged the child as their's the child was entitled to an equal share of his estate. Surprisingly, many of these men acknowledged these children, and so there were some mixed race "free people of color" who owned property and businesses.
I asked my mother,what was the turning point, leading to the end of Jim Crowe for her, and many others. She replied, "When those little girls were blown up in the basement of the Church". They knew Jim Crowe was unfair to the AAs, they knew about the Klan, though where she came from, membership in her circle was considered a sin, but it was accepted. But when those little girls were killed, they knew the separate but equal thing was just a mask for a deeper injustice.
I do remember separate schools, waiting rooms, etc.
In the small town in S. LA., where I grew up, there were some people who took it upon themselves to integrate before it was mandated by the CRA. A lot of that occurred because of the Catholic Church, which integrated its schools, though some historic ones, like St Augustine are still around.
LA has always been a little different from the rest of the South. Not to say that there weren't abuses and grave injustices, but because there were also inheritance laws dating from the French and Spanish, that gave property rights to a child born to a black mother, fathered by a white man. If these men acknowledged the child as their's the child was entitled to an equal share of his estate. Surprisingly, many of these men acknowledged these children, and so there were some mixed race "free people of color" who owned property and businesses.
I asked my mother,what was the turning point, leading to the end of Jim Crowe for her, and many others. She replied, "When those little girls were blown up in the basement of the Church". They knew Jim Crowe was unfair to the AAs, they knew about the Klan, though where she came from, membership in her circle was considered a sin, but it was accepted. But when those little girls were killed, they knew the separate but equal thing was just a mask for a deeper injustice.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 2:08 pm to redandright
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Surprisingly, many of these men acknowledged these children, and so there were some mixed race "free people of color" who owned property and businesses.
Yeah I think they call them Creoles.
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