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1980 USA Hockey vs. 2014 USA Hockey -- Olympics

Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:49 am
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:49 am
If we win gold in this one, where does it compare in your mind to 1980 ?
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:50 am to
doesn't

eta: not even close
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 10:51 am
Posted by COTiger
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:53 am to
A very distant second.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:53 am to
This team is doing well?

And not even close

American team was amateurs that beat russian squad that defeated nhl all-srars
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:54 am to
This is a much better team compared to the one we had in 1980.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:57 am to
quote:

This is a much better team compared to the one we had in 1980.
was the question how do the teams compare talent wise or how does winning the gold compare? if talent wise I have no idea wasn't alive in 1980 but as far as winning the gold this isn't even a question. the 80 game was about MUCH more than just hockey
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 11:02 am
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:01 am to
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the 80 game was about MUCH more than just hockey

Which is why it's so famous. No way we're talking about yesterday's win in 35 years.
Posted by Wally Sparks
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:01 am to
1980 and it ain't close.

Would still go America frick yeah if we win gold though.
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:07 am to
quote:

This team is doing well?


they beat Russia yesterday in a match that ESPN is already calling the greatest in the history of the Olympics, or something like that ..

quote:

American team was amateurs that beat russian squad that defeated nhl all-srars


pretty much my feelings ..
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:08 am to
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This is a much better team compared to the one we had in 1980.



well, sure .. this team is much older and are professional players .. but i don't think this team wins a seven-game series against the 1980 USSR team with all things equal ..
Posted by COTiger
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:17 am to
I'm not sure that Herb Brooks ever got enough credit for the superb coaching and motivation job that he did. What do you think?
Posted by RedMustang
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:36 am to
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Posted by COTiger I'm not sure that Herb Brooks ever got enough credit for the superb coaching and motivation job that he did. What do you think?


I think he did get a lot of credit, and rightfully so. He was featured prominently in the movie, Miracle On Ice. I've got a buddy who played on that 1980 team. He said Herbie worked the crap out of the players, but it obviously all paid off.
Posted by southernelite
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:43 am to
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this team is much older and are professional players .. but i don't think this team wins a seven-game series against the 1980 USSR team with all things equal ..


Well, the 80s USSR team had been skating together for a very long time and that was their sole purpose. Especially these days, with the NHL players worried about injury, and not skating together, sure the USSR would have a huge advantage.


Winning gold here would be nice, but it would still pale in comparison.

Also, itll still be tough, going to have to get through the Russians again, and the Canadians to take it home.
Posted by COTiger
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:43 am to
Great story.

Do you mind divulging your buddy's name? Understand if you don't.

I saw some of the tryouts in 1979. You are right. Herbie was working their asses off in the tryouts.
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:52 am to
Herb Brooks was probably one of the only guys that could have pulled that all off .. from all accounts, he had the right mix of toughness, motivation, and bench coaching ..
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:53 am to
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I think he did get a lot of credit, and rightfully so. He was featured prominently in the movie, Miracle On Ice. I've got a buddy who played on that 1980 team. He said Herbie worked the crap out of the players, but it obviously all paid off.


Who is your friend that played on that team ?

eta: isn't virtually that whole team basically pushing their 60s now ?
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:59 am to
Herb Brooks gets tons of credit for 1980. Always has, even as he tried to deflect it to the players.

From a hockey standpoint, a 2014 gold is more significant. Every team is better and full of great players. The field is absolutely loaded - it's like have 6 or 7 dream teams out there.

Culturally? Not even the same ballpark. The Miracle On Ice is one of the biggest shared cultural sports touchstones of American culture.
It is arguably the most significant sporting event in US history, culturally speaking. You'll never have that again. Too many stars were aligned as the game took on increased socio-political importance.
Posted by SprintFun
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:05 pm to
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It is arguably the most significant sporting event in US history, culturally speaking.


1. Jesse Owens in Berlin
2. Miracle on ice

ETA: that's for different thread though
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:22 pm to
No 1958 NFL Chmpionship game ?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:27 pm to
quote:


American team was amateurs that beat russian squad that defeated nhl all-srars



Nailed it. Not even comparable.
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