re: Engineering Drawing HW help

I appreciate it

The just want a plan and elevation view.

We don't dimension ISOs. I personally think that's a terrible idea. So much room for error.

I can draw it by hand..Don't ask me to do it in CAD. I'm old!

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And that's why your kind are being phased out.

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haha. I love people that complain about technology like its a bad thing. I had a discussion with a concrete sub earlier this year about using a computer program to do takeoffs.
He tells me, "I don't use computers for that. You just cant trust it."
Me: "Yes you can. You can spot check and verify dimensions on the prints to make sure its calculating correctly."
Him: "Well, I'd rather just take a few days and take them off on paper."
Me: "I can do that in an hour."

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And that's why your kind are being phased out.

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That's fine...I'll need to be phased out at some point, but as long as kids keep coming to me with questions that I can answer, I'll believe I still have a little worth.

You can say what you want...Sure "automated" methods are faster, and to a point, more accurate, but there is a lot to be valued in being able to do something by hand, and that goes for more than just drawing and calcs.

I'm not disagreeing with you. Your experience is somewhat valuable.

For instance, I have a 60ish year old man that works under me (I'm 25) now. He was a very talented draftsman for 15 or so years. His company went belly up in about 2007. He came to my company and applied as a draftsman. Well, with his great résumé of course they hired him. Brought him into drafting and told him he'd have to learn a Solid Edge, but with his experience it shouldn't be that bad.

The man now breaks out parts and runs our hardness tester and has for 7 or so years, and I have not once gone to him with a question.

Gotta get up with the times and keep innovation high to keep a job in this industry IMO.

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Posted by TexasTiger89
I have been an ME for 25 years. In real life you just walk over to the Drafting department and give them this task with a charge code. Don't worry about being great at drawing. You don't need to be to be in real life.

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You should be able to visualize a 3d objects from 2d drawings, though.

All classes give you are simple objects like this, then you get a job and you get drawings for entire buildings, rigs , power plants, etc.

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The Bruce

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That's fine...I'll need to be phased out at some point, but as long as kids keep coming to me with questions that I can answer, I'll believe I still have a little worth.

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And you will.

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You can say what you want...Sure "automated" methods are faster, and to a point, more accurate,

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They are.

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but there is a lot to be valued in being able to do something by hand, and that goes for more than just drawing and calcs.

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And you need to realize that most of these people could also do it by hand, but probably not as quickly as you. But there is tremendous value in using technology as a tool. It not lazy, or less specialized. Its exactly the opposite. The fact that I don't have to spend three days taking off drawings for a bid allows me to spend more time in the drawings, scoping subcontractors, and delivering a better product to the owner.