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Aid in dying

Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:44 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:44 am
Could something as simple as redefining," Assisted Suicide" as " Aid in Dying" make it more palatable to Americans?

LINKhttps://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/02/08/us/easing-terminal-patients-path-to-death-legally.html?_r=0&referrer=


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DENVER — Helping the terminally ill end their lives, condemned for decades as immoral, is gaining traction. Banned everywhere but Oregon until 2008, it is now legal in five states. Its advocates, who have learned to shun the term “assisted suicide,” believe that as baby boomers watch frail parents suffer, support for what they call the “aid in dying” movement will grow further.



Apparently so?
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 4:45 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:17 am to
I dont really care what you call it, terminally ill patients should have the right to medically end their lives if they want to.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:19 am to
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I dont really care what you call it, terminally ill patients should have the right to medically end their lives if they want to.


This
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58058 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:37 am to
quote:

I dont really care what you call it, terminally ill patients should have the right to medically end their lives if they want to.



Patients already are able to end their lives. Having doctors do it opens a door to abuse.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:40 am to
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Patients already are able to end their lives. Having doctors do it opens a door to abuse.



meh...nearly all freedoms open doors for abuse.

Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:50 am to
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Patients already are able to end their lives.


Not with medical help they arent. I'd much rather them do it safely under medical supervision than try to shot or hang themselves, where things often go wrong and just leave them in an even worse state.

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Having doctors do it opens a door to abuse.


Obviously a patient would need a terminal diagnosis and have to undergo a psychological evaluation first.

Ultimately though, literally anything can be abused. Do we stop providing pain meds to people who need them just because some in our society are drug seekers who abuse them?
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37342 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:55 am to
I watched my best friend suffer from terminal cancer a few months ago and have different opinions about this. On one hand, it absolutely almost killed me watching him suffer and having these discussions. It is a chilling day when your best friend tells you he would kill himself if it were not for the life insurance policy that didn't cover suicide. On the other hand, the last few weeks he spent on earth were extremely important for the family he left behind. It allowed them to grasp the situation and spend those last days by side.

I can say that there was a point he was ready to give up, but then survival kicked in and he fought like hell until the end.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58058 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:56 am to
quote:

Obviously a patient would need a terminal diagnosis and have to undergo a psychological evaluation first.



Listen, I have conflicted feelings about the subject and I can't imagine being in a situation where you are in severe pain, wanting to die, and can't. I'm just worried about what will happen if the practice is expanded.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58058 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 6:03 am to
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I can say that there was a point he was ready to give up, but then survival kicked in and he fought like hell until the end.




It's a very difficult topic and not so black and white in my opinion.
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