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EPA's Wood-Burning Stove Ban Has Chilling Consequences For Many Rural People
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:13 pm
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It seems that even wood isn’t green or renewable enough anymore. The EPA has recently banned the production and sale of 80 percent of America’s current wood-burning stoves, the oldest heating method known to mankind and mainstay of rural homes and many of our nation’s poorest residents. The agency’s stringent one-size-fits-all rules apply equally to heavily air-polluted cities and far cleaner plus typically colder off-grid wilderness areas such as large regions of Alaska and the American West.
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Whereas restrictions had previously banned wood-burning stoves that didn’t limit fine airborne particulate emissions to 15 micrograms per cubic meter of air, the change will impose a maximum 12 microgram limit. To put this amount in context, EPA estimates that secondhand tobacco smoke in a closed car can expose a person to 3,000-4,000 micrograms of particulates per cubic meter.
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Most wood stoves that warm cabin and home residents from coast-to-coast can’t meet that standard. Older stoves that don’t cannot be traded in for updated types, but instead must be rendered inoperable, destroyed, or recycled as scrap metal.
The impacts of EPA’s ruling will affect many families. According to the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2011 survey statistics, 2.4 million American housing units (12 percent of all homes) burned wood as their primary heating fuel, compared with 7 percent that depended upon fuel oil.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:17 pm to wickowick
Just put another log in my OLD heater.
They keep pushing, and they'll end up being escorted out of this country. I hope it starts next Fall.
They keep pushing, and they'll end up being escorted out of this country. I hope it starts next Fall.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:18 pm to wickowick
Idiotic reg from an idiotic agency but I suspect they're going to have a difficult time enforcing it.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:19 pm to wickowick
Things like this are why I dislike the EPA.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:20 pm to RCDfan1950
This is very interesting...
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Only weeks after EPA enacted its new stove rules, attorneys general of seven states sued the agency to crack down on wood-burning water heaters as well. The lawsuit was filed by Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont, all predominately Democrat states. Claiming that EPA’s new regulations didn’t go far enough to decrease particle pollution levels, the plaintiffs cited agency estimates that outdoor wood boilers will produce more than 20 percent of wood-burning emissions by 2017. A related suit was filed by the environmental group Earth Justice.
Did EPA require a motivational incentive to tighten its restrictions? Sure, about as much as Br’er Rabbit needed to persuade Br’er Fox to throw him into the briar patch. This is but another example of EPA and other government agencies working with activist environmental groups to sue and settle on claims that afford leverage to enact new regulations which they lack statutory authority to otherwise accomplish.
“Sue and settle “ practices, sometimes referred to as “friendly lawsuits”, are cozy deals through which far-left radical environmental groups file lawsuits against federal agencies wherein court-ordered “consent decrees” are issued based upon a prearranged settlement agreement they collaboratively craft together in advance behind closed doors. Then, rather than allowing the entire process to play out, the agency being sued settles the lawsuit by agreeing to move forward with the requested action both they and the litigants want.
And who pays for this litigation? All-too-often we taxpayers are put on the hook for legal fees of both colluding parties. According to a 2011 GAO report, this amounted to millions of dollars awarded to environmental organizations for EPA litigations between 1995 and 2010. Three “Big Green” groups received 41% of this payback, with Earthjustice accounting for 30 percent ($4,655,425). Two other organizations with histories of lobbying for regulations EPA wants while also receiving agency funding are the American Lung Association (ALA) and the Sierra Club.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:26 pm to RCDfan1950
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Just put another log in my OLD heater.
Another winter advisory today caused by climate change. At least when we're all shivering in the cold in our homes, we'll have the comfort of knowing everyone else is cold as well.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:26 pm to wickowick
quote:This makes me throw up in my mouth a bit.
This is but another example of EPA and other government agencies working with activist environmental groups to sue and settle on claims that afford leverage to enact new regulations
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:36 pm to DonChowder
quote:Happens a good bit. Works great on an industry with a limited number of competitors. It goes like this:
This makes me throw up in my mouth a bit.
1- threaten Company A with lawsuit that will render it uncompetitive against companies B and C.
2- Company A then supports restrictions because it will level the playing field. "Even some industry members back this regulation!"
3- Lobbyists start extracting dollars from Company A to get the regulation.
4- regulation enacted, "settle" the lawsuit, pay the activists.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:39 pm to wickowick
Sue and settle is a real piece of shite tactic.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:39 pm to wickowick
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Only weeks after EPA enacted its new stove rules, attorneys general of seven states sued the agency to crack down on wood-burning water heaters as well. The lawsuit was filed by Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont, all predominately Democrat states. Claiming that EPA’s new regulations didn’t go far enough to decrease particle pollution levels, the plaintiffs cited agency estimates that outdoor wood boilers will produce more than 20 percent of wood-burning emissions by 2017. A related suit was filed by the environmental group Earth Justice. Did EPA require a motivational incentive to tighten its restrictions? Sure, about as much as Br’er Rabbit needed to persuade Br’er Fox to throw him into the briar patch. This is but another example of EPA and other government agencies working with activist environmental groups to sue and settle on claims that afford leverage to enact new regulations which they lack statutory authority to otherwise accomplish. “Sue and settle “ practices, sometimes referred to as “friendly lawsuits”, are cozy deals through which far-left radical environmental groups file lawsuits against federal agencies wherein court-ordered “consent decrees” are issued based upon a prearranged settlement agreement they collaboratively craft together in advance behind closed doors. Then, rather than allowing the entire process to play out, the agency being sued settles the lawsuit by agreeing to move forward with the requested action both they and the litigants want. And who pays for this litigation? All-too-often we taxpayers are put on the hook for legal fees of both colluding parties. According to a 2011 GAO report, this amounted to millions of dollars awarded to environmental organizations for EPA litigations between 1995 and 2010. Three “Big Green” groups received 41% of this payback, with Earthjustice accounting for 30 percent ($4,655,425). Two other organizations with histories of lobbying for regulations EPA wants while also receiving agency funding are the American Lung Association (ALA) and the Sierra Club.
Wow. Just wow. Rotten to the core! For all practical purposes we've got 'bin Laden and the Mullahs' running the show. Arrogant, high-minded and ASSUMING absolute higher moral ground.
And when the terrorist bring down the electrical grid...and all these rural areas are left to fend for themselves while the population areas get first dibs - just like in Katrina - then who gets the blame.
If this keeps up, the day will come when I won't even tune in to watch the 'witchtrials' and public hangings. They will have earned it.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:47 pm to wickowick
quote:
Only weeks after EPA enacted its new stove rules, attorneys general of seven states sued the agency to crack down on wood-burning water heaters as well. The lawsuit was filed by Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont, all predominately Democrat states. Claiming that EPA’s new regulations didn’t go far enough to decrease particle pollution levels, the plaintiffs cited agency estimates that outdoor wood boilers will produce more than 20 percent of wood-burning emissions by 2017. A related suit was filed by the environmental group Earth Justice. Did EPA require a motivational incentive to tighten its restrictions? Sure, about as much as Br’er Rabbit needed to persuade Br’er Fox to throw him into the briar patch. This is but another example of EPA and other government agencies working with activist environmental groups to sue and settle on claims that afford leverage to enact new regulations which they lack statutory authority to otherwise accomplish. “Sue and settle “ practices, sometimes referred to as “friendly lawsuits”, are cozy deals through which far-left radical environmental groups file lawsuits against federal agencies wherein court-ordered “consent decrees” are issued based upon a prearranged settlement agreement they collaboratively craft together in advance behind closed doors. Then, rather than allowing the entire process to play out, the agency being sued settles the lawsuit by agreeing to move forward with the requested action both they and the litigants want. And who pays for this litigation? All-too-often we taxpayers are put on the hook for legal fees of both colluding parties. According to a 2011 GAO report, this amounted to millions of dollars awarded to environmental organizations for EPA litigations between 1995 and 2010. Three “Big Green” groups received 41% of this payback, with Earthjustice accounting for 30 percent ($4,655,425). Two other organizations with histories of lobbying for regulations EPA wants while also receiving agency funding are the American Lung Association (ALA) and the Sierra Club.
Seems to me that a whole lot of attorneys should be reported to their respective state bars for this shite.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:51 pm to wickowick
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:57 pm to wickowick
How long before they decide an actual wood burning fireplace is bad?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:03 pm to wickowick
when I lived in Oregon, the county would have burn bans based on the air quality. They could not ban people from using their stoves if that was their only source of heat.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:03 pm to SSpaniel
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How long before they decide molecular activity is bad?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:10 pm to wickowick
They should start "Cash for Clunkers - The Wood Stove Edition".
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:14 pm to upgrayedd
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They should start "Cash for Clunkers - The Wood Stove Edition"
Thread winner!
The next step would be to microstamp individual pieces of firewood for the public safety.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:30 pm to son of arlo
the way I read it, its the sale and production of new stoves.
the regulations prohibiting use were local.
did I read that wrong?
the regulations prohibiting use were local.
did I read that wrong?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:41 pm to wickowick
Sounded a bit much. It would (not enacted yet) not affect existing stoves.
quote:EPA Website
On January 3, 2014, EPA proposed revisions to the residential wood heater new source performance standards (NSPS) under Section 111 of the Clean Air Act. The draft revisions apply to new heaters ONLY and do not apply to existing wood stoves and other wood heaters installed in peoples’ homes. Go to www2.epa.gov/residential-wood-heaters to review and comment on the proposed revisions before final standards are issued. EPA will accept written comments for 90 days after publication of the proposal in the Federal Register.
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