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Man of Steel 2 Script to be Re-Written, Nolan No Longer Involved
Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:46 am
Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:46 am
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 1:05 am to Shiftyplus1
The guy in the link kind of butchers what the guy from Forbes actually said.
Here's the original article
Here's the original article
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 1:06 am
Posted on 2/4/14 at 3:10 am to saintsfan22
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The guy in the link kind of butchers what the guy from Forbes actually said.
Yeah that Forbes article was pretty well written. Though what he's saying about why WB is basically making this a Pre-Justice League movie, opposed to a strictly Superman sequel, was already pretty obvious.
Nolans name was just used as a selling tool for MOS more than anything else. They're basically just moving on from trying to say this "Nolans Superman". Good.
I still wish it was a standalone Superman sequel but I'm trying to give it a fair shake until I see it. It does sound like typical studio bullshite though that they're freaking out that they didn't make a billion on MOS so now they're throwing Batman and WW in the sequel to make it more Avengery to boost the box office sales.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:47 am to Murray
Agreed Murray - it almost seems to me that DC took a wait and see attitude and probly figured Marvel would fall flat on Cap and Thor - IM already proved successful.
once those 2 did well, and Avengers just pretty much ownded the box office, DC went shite!....we screwed up, now they are scrambling to try and match Marvel - and I think its just gonna be a hot mess.
I am willing to give it all a shot to see what happens, but I am not very confident in it.
its funny how fast a situation could turn - DC owned with the Nolan Trilogy, and now they are way behind Marvel. will be interesting to see what DC's future holds.
once those 2 did well, and Avengers just pretty much ownded the box office, DC went shite!....we screwed up, now they are scrambling to try and match Marvel - and I think its just gonna be a hot mess.
I am willing to give it all a shot to see what happens, but I am not very confident in it.
its funny how fast a situation could turn - DC owned with the Nolan Trilogy, and now they are way behind Marvel. will be interesting to see what DC's future holds.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:30 am to Murray
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strictly Superman sequel
Thats what I want. I'm not ready for Batman, Wonder Woman, Nightwing, and whatever else bullshite.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:35 am to Shiftyplus1
Trying to hold onto hope that this is not going to be a shitshow. Trying...
Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:41 am to saintsfan22
That Forbes article actually makes me feel a little better about this. It was giving all the indications of going completely off the rails (and it still may), but it seems as if WB is making some intelligent decisions.
Proof will be in the pudding.
Proof will be in the pudding.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:46 am to saintsfan22
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The best symbol of the whole situation can perhaps be found in the fact Marvel‘s superhero sequel featuring Thor — with a November release date — will have nearly matched Superman’s summer numbers at the box office in 2013.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:50 am to SaintEB
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strictly Superman sequel
Thats what I want. I'm not ready for Batman, Wonder Woman, Nightwing, and whatever else bullshite.
Not in a Superman film, but Nightwing needs a fair shake. So do WW, Green Arrow, a REAL Green Lantern. Some of DC's best takes are how all of these other superheroes relate to someone like Superman. It's a good dynamic to build.
I assume DC thinks Batman has had his time, but they might be wrong on that. They could have and should have, rebooted him on his own in this new world. Not doing that, is kind of a mistake.
One good thing that can come from this is they are really making Superman, and the destruction of Metropolis, the tent pole for the whole franchise, which, if done right, can give the early parts some nice weight. A world torn down, thousands dead, a lot can play into that. Cavill can carry that load, I think, but he really does deserve his own movie at the same time.
Most of the MOS2 has been so...blah, I just hope they turn it around at some point. Eisenberg is a weird choice that I think I've grown to like.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 8:52 am
Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:52 am to Napoleon
True, but it is also completely out of context.
Thor II was coming off Avengers, and a decent premiere. MoS was a "stand alone" that was trying to shake off Returns (I did like how the author noted that Returns was not the box office disaster everyone believes). Nolan's trilogy was not a "true" lead-in.
That said, without question, Marvel has done this right and DC is scrambling.
Thor II was coming off Avengers, and a decent premiere. MoS was a "stand alone" that was trying to shake off Returns (I did like how the author noted that Returns was not the box office disaster everyone believes). Nolan's trilogy was not a "true" lead-in.
That said, without question, Marvel has done this right and DC is scrambling.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:53 am to Napoleon
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The best symbol of the whole situation can perhaps be found in the fact Marvel‘s superhero sequel featuring Thor — with a November release date — will have nearly matched Superman’s summer numbers at the box office in 2013.
Ouch. That's an ominous data point.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:57 am to Freauxzen
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Ouch. That's an ominous data point.
Like a previous poster said, I think that has a lot to do with Thor riding off of a big Avengers movie. However, the tell will be if another Justice League member could carry its own movie.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:03 am to udtiger
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Thor II was coming off Avengers,
It cam out 16 months after avengers. With Iron Man 3 before that.
Unfair comparison would be to compare MOS to Iron Man 3, which I think was the top grossing movie last year.
Thor up until recently was a third tier superhero.
Every Avenger is a second tier.
So for Superman to have that much less interest is telling. Seeing how DC dominated the movie place for years until the Marvel cinematic universe came about.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:11 am to SaintEB
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Like a previous poster said, I think that has a lot to do with Thor riding off of a big Avengers movie.
You mean right now in the popular consciousness Thor is almost as popular as Superman?
That's not a good sign when you're talking about the most celebrated and popular comic book hero, cultural icon, and one who already has 5 movies, 3 television series, and multiple cartoons under his belt.
And I would only call Thor "riding" off of Avengers if we're talking about a spin off. Thor 2 isn't a spin-off, it's just as much a part of the universe as the singular Avenger film. Elektra is a spin-off, Thor not so much.
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However, the tell will be if another Justice League member could carry its own movie.
Of course Batman can, why DC isn't interested in rebooting him alone is beyond me. There are at least 4 great storylines that could mesh well with what happened in MOS.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:20 am to Freauxzen
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You mean right now in the popular consciousness Thor is almost as popular as Superman?
That's not a good sign when you're talking about the most celebrated and popular comic book hero, cultural icon, and one who already has 5 movies, 3 television series, and multiple cartoons under his belt.
I agree with this. I'm not a comics guy. So the fact that I had only a faint idea who Thor was before the Marvel movies and I absolutely know Superman, is the tell.
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Of course Batman can, why DC isn't interested in rebooting him alone is beyond me.
Right, but I'm not sure it needs a total reboot. Are you talking origin story or just a new movie with him seeing what happened in Metropolis?
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:24 am to Freauxzen
Batman
Flash
WW
Cyborg
Constantine
GL (done right)
Nightwing
Green Arrow
All could make decent movies. That isn't even counting many of the lesser known characters.
Flash
WW
Cyborg
Constantine
GL (done right)
Nightwing
Green Arrow
All could make decent movies. That isn't even counting many of the lesser known characters.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:31 am to Scruffy
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All could make decent movies.
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Constantine
You serious? This has been done and it is great. Bring Keanu back!
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:33 am to SaintEB
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Right, but I'm not sure it needs a total reboot. Are you talking origin story or just a new movie with him seeing what happened in Metropolis?
Just a new movie. We all know Batman's background, we can get creative with flashbacks, etc. Start fast out of the gate with something parallel to MoS story line.
A new stand-alone Batman film would make more money than MoS Guaranteed. This is the SOLE reason they are putting Batman in MoS2; it's also a big problem. More people will be going to see Batman than Superman and they know this. So this entire production will have a problem with who to feature, and how to play it out strictly based on the image of Batman and what he'll represent in the film. I actually think the Affleck choice is very good. And having Bruce Wayme, and NOT Batman, in the film could have been smart. But admitting to a full fledged Batman? That's just a ploy for dollars, not narrative quality. And there's too many stories that ARE great in both Superman and Batman story lines to just play to the ticket sales.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 9:35 am
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:45 am to Scruffy
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Flash
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GL (done right)
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Nightwing
Are no-brainers to me. Especially Flash. His personality would play so well to audiences. He's just so damned likable.
GL, I mean I thought Reynolds was a good choice, but the movie just stunk. A John Stewart or another Hal Jordan version would work so well. Even a Kyle Raynor storyline would be ok if they wanted to go multi-cultural.
Nightwing, that's just a personal want of mine, and I think Dick is one of DC's most interesting superheroes. The problem with Nightwing is that his relation to Bruce is central to the character's evolution. So if you want a Nightwing film, you have to build it from that. I think there's an easy way to do it, but I think Nightwing's pretty low on the totem poll for their film universe.
Or if we get him we'll get a current Fantastic Four-like Teen Titans film. Shoot me now. Michael Cera as Nightwing!
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 9:54 am
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:48 am to Freauxzen
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GL, I mean I thought Reynolds was a good choice, but the movie just stunk. A John Stewart or another Hal Jordan version would work so well. Even a Kyle Raynor storyline would be ok if they wanted to go multi-cultural.
Reynolds would have made a fine Kyle Raynor, but he was an awful Hal Jordan. John Stewart has always been my favorite Lantern anyway.
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