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Ray Ray Nagin Trial is Supposed to Start on Monday...

Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:51 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:51 pm
What are the chances he pleads down at some point this weekend? I haven't followed much of the action lately, but I have to assume the feds have his balls in a vice.

And please don't start with any racist or anti N.O. shite please.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 9:35 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:08 pm to
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And please don't start with any racist are anti N.O. shite please.


Oh.

Never mind.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63489 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:12 pm to
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What are the chances he pleads down at some point this weekend?


Less likely than a few weeks ago. I do know that some Assistant U.S. Attorneys' assholes are really tight right now. They've been increasing the pressure on some of their witnesses like you wouldn't believe.

I'm in a quandary. I think Nagin should be convicted, but, on the other hand, I'd love to see some of these careerist a-hole prosecutors fall flat on their faces.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71037 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:14 pm to
I still can't believe how well Morial covered his tracks. He was a seriously shady character and he never got busted.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58122 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:20 pm to
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I still can't believe how well Morial covered his tracks. He was a seriously shady character and he never got busted.
quote:

I still can't believe how well Morial covered his tracks. He was a seriously shady character and he never got busted.


Agreed. Seems so many in his inner circle and related friends got busted, but he got away. And to top if off, he has his nice position with the Urban League.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:32 pm to
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nd please don't start with any racist are anti N.O. shite please.


Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79069 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

And please don't start with any racist or anti N.O. shite please.


Chocolate City ring a bell?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71037 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:58 pm to
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Chocolate City ring a bell?


There's a local ice cream company that makes a Chocolate City flavor

Really good ice cream too.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63489 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:15 pm to
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Agreed. Seems so many in his inner circle and related friends got busted, but he got away. And to top if off, he has his nice position with the Urban League.


He never really put money directly in his own pocket. That's not what he was about. It was about power gained through "favor" to others. Nothing criminal to really to hang on him, believe it or not.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9454 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 12:50 am to
I find it hard to believe that Marc Morials wasn't corrupt. I always felt that he was a beneficiary of the statute of limitations running out.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20114 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 12:57 am to
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I'm in a quandary. I think Nagin should be convicted, but, on the other hand, I'd love to see some of these careerist a-hole prosecutors fall flat on their faces.


Okay, i get you not liking assholes, but why would you have a problem with AUSA's making a career out of being a prosecutor?

Are you talking about any individual prosecutors on this case specifically?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:33 am to
If there are many (any?) black people on his jury you know what the verdict will be, why bother?
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20114 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:58 am to
It's not like that.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63489 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:56 am to
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why would you have a problem with AUSA's making a career out of being a prosecutor?


I wasn't really using the term "careerist" to mean simply making a career out of working as a prosecutor. I meant:

the policy or practice of advancing one's career often at the cost of one's integrity

LINK

Some of these guys have the unfortunate tendency to use their power to bully citizens who are pretty tangential to the "investigation". They ambition outweighs sometimes their integrity. And, yes, I referring to the experiences of a particular witness in mind in this case and, no, obviously I can't identify him/her.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63489 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:58 am to
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If there are many (any?) black people on his jury you know what the verdict will be, why bother?



Nagin ain't O.J. I don't think that will be a big deal.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20114 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:33 am to
I dont believe the motivation to sacrifice intergrity is about career advancement in that office. There's just a culture of win at all costs that's pervasive with most attornies, quite frankly, and in the office of the prosecution there is ample opportunity to abuse their abundant power.

Specifically, I think things have improved in the wake of the Pericone/Mann/Letten scandal, but I'm sure the use of "strong arm tactics" will still be around. Hopefully less so.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63489 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Specifically, I think things have improved in the wake of the Pericone/Mann/Letten scandal, but I'm sure the use of "strong arm tactics" will still be around. Hopefully less so.



Could be.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98930 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:24 pm to
I'm staying in the Hilton Riverside right now and had a chocolate chip cookie in the executive lounge earlier.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32880 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 4:04 pm to
What's he charged with?
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