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When FedGov is used to torment Political Enemies . . .

Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:23 am
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:23 am
When you live in a country in which the instrumentalities of the Nation-State itself are used to target, harass and torment political enemies of the administrators of the Nation-State . . .

What kind of country would you call that?
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:25 am to
One where you become more and more paranoid. Probably the gayness of soldiers has rubbed off on you.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:26 am to
a state of stateism

This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 9:58 am
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:29 am to
What's a bigger disservice, a government that prosecutes criminals under laws that were democratically established or a "news" network and its lemmings that falsely attribute nefarious motives to that government?
Posted by LongueCarabine
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:29 am to
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One where you become more and more paranoid. Probably the gayness of soldiers has rubbed off on you.


"May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” - Samuel Adams

LC
Posted by LongueCarabine
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:34 am to
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democratically established




LC
Posted by Hawkeye95
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:38 am to
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When you live in a country in which the instrumentalities of the Nation-State itself are used to target, harass and torment political enemies of the administrators of the Nation-State . . .

What kind of country would you call that?

its called fascism. And its not a particularly new concept, the US gov't has been fascist since I was a kid. And will continue that way.

This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 9:42 am
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:38 am to
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What kind of country would you call that?



Venezuela?


To me it's all of this just points to an Obama 3rd term. He's just gonna seize control because nobody is going to stop him.
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:41 am to
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government that prosecutes criminals under laws that were democratically established

You seem to forget the stacks of reports that indicate Obama himself had illegal donations and incredibly shady fundraising.
The fact that the film maker is going to be indicted while a hypocrite sits in the oval office is a bit too much too take.

Obama's mendacity and lying is too much. An awful president, person, and leader.

quote:

He's just gonna seize control because nobody is going to stop him.


"It would be good...if (Obama) could be dictator for a few years because he could do a lot of good things quickly," - Woody Allen

Far-left activist and singer Harry Belafonte publicly encouraged President Obama to jail those calling for entitlement reforms - Link

"It's okay tonight to act kinda like a dictator tonight,.., I don't want to see any reaching across the aisle" -Ed Schulz on the BP spill LINK

[Barack Obama should simply rule by decree, issuing executive orders for "everything,"] -Gist Charlie Rangel LINK
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 9:50 am
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:55 am to
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a government that prosecutes criminals under laws that were democratically established


But, Rex, what would you call a Government that indeed does prosecute some violators, but, on the other hand, when the "violator" is a political ally of the Government administrators, the Government does not prosecute? And assume we are talking about violation of the same laws.

What would you call that kind of country?
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:57 am to
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One where you become more and more paranoid. Probably the gayness of soldiers has rubbed off on you.




I'm just asking some thoughtful questions here. No need for you to demonstrate once again that you bring nothing to the table when it comes to thoughtful conversation, analysis and reasoning.

Posted by LongueCarabine
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:57 am to
"The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."

Ayn Rand

She hit the nail on the head with this one.

LC

Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:57 am to
Obama is thuggin'
Posted by Dead End
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:02 am to
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One where you become more and more paranoid. Probably the gayness of soldiers has rubbed off on you.


quote:

What's a bigger disservice, a government that prosecutes criminals under laws that were democratically established or a "news" network and its lemmings that falsely attribute nefarious motives to that government?



Good job on avoiding the question. You two sound like a press secretary for Obama.
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:07 am to
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You seem to forget the stacks of reports that indicate Obama himself had illegal donations and incredibly shady fundraising.


Not to mention Eric Holder was the ramrod on Marc Rich's pardon by Clinton. Rich had been on the FBI's top ten most wanted list.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:08 am to
My questions have been completely theoretical. I am not making reference to the Nixon Admin, the Bush Admin or any other POTUS Administration.

Here's another question:

If I am a member of the Bull Mastiff political party and believe wholeheartedly in its platform, I will do all I can to support the Bull POTUS and the Bull FedGov.

What if my Bull Mastiff-run POTUS and Bull Mastiff-dominated FedGov begin to selectively investigate and prosecute some Rover Party advocates for the same crimes that Bull Mastiff Party members commit without consequence?

What kind of person does that make me, if I can see this with my own eyes, but defend that practice and attack those who complain?

What kind of person would be a shill for that kind of Government?
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 10:24 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:10 am to
Or one where the government selectively prosecutes based on political leanings?

Just keep in mind, the liberals won't always be in power...

Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:13 am to
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What's a bigger disservice, a government that prosecutes criminals under laws that were democratically established or a "news" network and its lemmings that falsely attribute nefarious motives to that government?


Considering our government is not a democracy, and democratically established laws are therefore invalid,I would say the former.
Posted by CITWTT
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:16 am to
I would simply call it the Fourth Reich, and we are feeling the jack boots on our throats as was stated by a certain person.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:17 am to
Government of the thugs, by the thugs, for the thugs, shall not perish from the Earth.
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