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The Sum of All Natural Integers is -1/12

Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:36 pm
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:36 pm
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:42 pm to
You read the Slate article too, I see.
Posted by meaux5
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:53 pm to
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Posted by Hopeful Doc
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Pretty straight forward really


Of course. Math is really easy when you bastardize it and don't follow the rules of infinite series.


The first series doesn't converge on any one number. You cannot take the average of it and call it a day. You can take the average of a similar alternating (signs) infinite series when it does appear to be converging on a number when you approach infinity (ie, each two new sum's difference as n--> infinity has less difference than the previous two. At that point, you may take an average. When you are constantly alternating between two sums without approaching anything, the function only had value for certain 'n;' and the series has no value.


ETA: mathematicians, please excuse my attempt to simplify the terms. And please add what I am missing, if I did not hit on it.
This post was edited on 1/17/14 at 7:08 pm
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by 42
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:42 pm to
Silly.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
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Posted on 1/18/14 at 7:32 pm to
Still a divergent series. Still has no limit. You can estimate its sum, but you could refute their estimation.


Again, it's easy to make cool things up when you don't follow the rules. Same way you can watch 2=1 proofs all over the place.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/18/14 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 1/18/14 at 7:37 pm to
I like the 1=0 one better. my calc prof did that first day and said "wait till we get to calculus"
Posted by Traffic Circle
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Posted on 1/18/14 at 7:44 pm to
Nerd board.
Posted by Mohican
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Posted on 1/18/14 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

I think that since you're always in transition between the light on and the light off and as the speed at which you transition between on and off increases and the time of which it's either on or off shortens, it gets closer and closer to impossible to tell if the lights on or if the lights off. If this goes on for an infinite amount of time and what it actually looks like in the room is that the room will look dimly light, with a light intensity that's half way between on and off. Hence the 1/2 answer. ?




From the comments (and explained later in the video).


I'm not a mathematician, but I had a problem with the way he just threw in those plus signs after he added the "1" before the brackets. Something seems fundamentally wrong doing that. Again, could be wrong.
Posted by brgfather129
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Posted on 1/18/14 at 8:37 pm to
Even an undergrad mathematics major would know that video and its "result" is bullshite.
Posted by NativeFork
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Posted on 1/18/14 at 8:39 pm to
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Posted by Tigerwaffe
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Posted on 1/18/14 at 8:50 pm to
You mean we have all these fricking numbers for negative–one-fricking-twelfth? Whose the moron who invented numbers? What a shitbrain.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
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Posted on 1/18/14 at 8:51 pm to
Not true
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