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Lone Survior was a good movie but ending is total BS (spoilers)

Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:16 pm
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:16 pm
I am pissed. My body was ready but it was surprisingly off. I took the bait on the most realistic war movie hype.

News flash: Not even a damn seal takes that kind of beating and keeps going. It was like the Rocky of war movies. And the liberties were total BS. Google the real account of OP Red Wings.

Left the movie disappointed and feeling sorry for those who had their chain jerked by this movie. Ironically the movie makes seals like Rocky on taking punishment but total vee gee gees on a social and emotional level.

I will probably not find much support for my view. Damn, if it were a fictional movie it would be good except for the excess physical punishment the seals took. They freaking feel down two different mountains and get shot dozens of times but keep trucking. The ending is total BS, never happened.
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 11:27 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:19 pm to
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News flash: Not even a damn seal takes that kind of beating and keeps going.


You need to read the book. They were all shot multiple times and kept fighting until they died. Marcus Luttrell, the lone survivor of Operation Red Wing, broke his back and his leg on the final cliff dive the SEALs took off the mountain - and still continued to fight.



This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:19 pm to
Did you expect a documentary or a hollywood movie?

Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:19 pm to
Read the book
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:20 pm to
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Read the book


from what ive read, the book takes some liberties as well
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65086 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:22 pm to
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from what ive read, the book takes some liberties as well



Mainly on the number of Taliban troops involved. The co-author inflated the numbers to over 100 while Luttrell admitted in his own AAR that the number of Taliban fighters was somewhere in between 20-35.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:22 pm to
^this
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:23 pm to
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The co-author inflated the numbers to over 100 while Luttrell admitted in his own AAR that the number of Taliban fighters was somewhere in between 20-35.


quite the poetic license
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:24 pm to
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^this



Autopsy reports don't lie though. And neither do the wounds sustained by Luttrell. They were all shot multiple times and Luttrell did indeed continue to fight after sustaining severe injuries to his back and leg after his tumble off of the cliff.

Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:25 pm to
fact or fiction
Y
For those who "read the book"
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:26 pm to
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quite the poetic license


I personally don't care what the numbers are. Even 4 Navy SEALs, hampered by lack of support due to non-existent communication and limited ammunition, are going to be overran by 35 Taliban fighters who aren't far from their base of supply.
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
3974 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:27 pm to
And the water bottle he was given by Haji in real life probably gave him some bad stomach stuff for three months.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:29 pm to
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from what ive read, the book takes some liberties as well


I could see that. I haven't seen the movie but the book is an awesome read even when ML is stroking his ego.
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 10:30 pm
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16098 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:30 pm to
It isn't just the exaggerated numbers the survivor never was mortally wounded, so he never flat lined. The SOF who rescued him stopped to have tea with the freaking villagers before taking him back.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65086 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:30 pm to
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For those who "read the book"



I was only responding to your claim that there was no way the SEALs could have sustained a beating like that and kept fighting. Facts as well as forensics disproves your thesis.

I fully acknowledge that Hollywood beefed the story up to make it a better movie. That's their job. But those SEALS were really shot multiple times, really took those dives off those cliffs, and really continued to fight despite their injuries.

Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16098 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:32 pm to
Oh Tay Buckwheat!
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65086 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:34 pm to
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Oh Tay Buckwheat!



RA'd for racism.

Posted by Forkz
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:40 pm to
I'm not sure that's racism as much as it's a movie reference...on the movie board
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
3974 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:41 pm to
(Marcus Luttrell related) I still think the four idiots in this story are lucky Marcus has some self control:

LINK
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:44 pm to
Historical accuracy[edit]


Michael Murphy (left) with Matthew Axelson, taken in Afghanistan
While based on true events, the film greatly alters events in many regards.[44] Early in the film, the four-man SEAL team are discovered by three goat herders—an elderly man and two teenage boys. In fact, Luttrell wrote in his book that only one of the goat herders was a boy, not two.[45] The decision to kill the three goat herders or let them go has sparked a significant amount of controversy and debate over the Rules of Engagement and morality in combat.[44]
Also in dispute is the number of Taliban fighters involved in the ambush. Luttrell's after-action report stated that there had been 20–30 (although other sources claim as few as 8–10); in his book, the number had grown to over 50, and the screenplay describes “A solid line of at least fifty Taliban in firing positions on top of the hill above them."

The film shows Luttrell (Wahlberg) being able to walk after the Taliban’s ambush on the four-man SEAL team. In reality, Luttrell explained that he was paralyzed from the waist down, and had to crawl seven miles looking for water and sanctuary. A rocket-propelled grenade hurled him into a mountain crevice where he was able to hide from the Taliban. [44][46] Luttrell also expressed that he did not witness the MH-47 Chinook helicopter being shot down, as seen in the film.[44] At the end of the film the Pashtun villagers fight off a Taliban attack in a firefight, which never actually happened.[47]
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