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What about a rule where colleges were allowed to pay a players likely slotted $$
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:29 pm
Iseems to me that with the recent NFL rookie salary slots, it has kind of opened up kids leaving as they might not get much more by staying. And face it, if the choice is between playing for free (ok, playing for a scholarship) and paying for cash, the cash must look mighty inviting.
For years the NFL and NCAA has had a kind of mutually beneficial effect. The NFL has had a sort of free of charge minor or feeder league where they can evaluate the kids on someone else's dime. And the NCAA has the lure of future NFL $$ to entice kids to go to college and play ball which in turn makes the NCAA a lot of money.
I've never really gave much consideration to all the "pay the college players" talk because it just didn't seem practical for all schools to pay all players. Just not enough money out there.
But what if they instituted a rule where colleges would be allowed to pay those players who grade out as being drafted or signed higher than a certain threshold. Of course, I don't know if that committee that grades the players as to where they are liable to go would be willing to continue doing that if it would benefit the colleges keeping them longer. But the NFL might see it as in their interest to keep their feeder system intact.
For years the NFL and NCAA has had a kind of mutually beneficial effect. The NFL has had a sort of free of charge minor or feeder league where they can evaluate the kids on someone else's dime. And the NCAA has the lure of future NFL $$ to entice kids to go to college and play ball which in turn makes the NCAA a lot of money.
I've never really gave much consideration to all the "pay the college players" talk because it just didn't seem practical for all schools to pay all players. Just not enough money out there.
But what if they instituted a rule where colleges would be allowed to pay those players who grade out as being drafted or signed higher than a certain threshold. Of course, I don't know if that committee that grades the players as to where they are liable to go would be willing to continue doing that if it would benefit the colleges keeping them longer. But the NFL might see it as in their interest to keep their feeder system intact.
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:30 pm to Methuselah
such a refreshing, new topic.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:31 pm to Methuselah
Nice idea, wont happen
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:32 pm to Methuselah
pay the football players then you gotta pay the women's water polo team.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:34 pm to Methuselah
There is no way to pay any type of stipend to football player, especially when trying to single out the "good" players without being forced to pay every single tennis player, gymnast and track runner based on title IX structure. It would bankrupt most athletic programs before you could get to a number that would influence football players to not consider NFL money quicker.
Goes without saying this topic has been beaten to a pulp for the past couple of years.
Goes without saying this topic has been beaten to a pulp for the past couple of years.
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:36 pm to Methuselah
Been discussed a lot.
No fair way to do it. You pay certain players, but not others. Cant do it like that.
And just because someone gets graded out better than another player doesnt mean hes better or will be better next year. What if you have a guy thats a JR and was graded a 3rd rounder, came back and the school paid him. Another guy was a redshirt soph, graded as a 5th rounder, came back and school paid him less than the 5th rounder. Then the next year, the 5th rounder moves up as a late 1st early 2nd rounder and the other guy drops to the 6th or UDFA.
Cant go off draft grades. Do you pay a QB more than say an OL with the same grade??
Either have to pay everyone the same, or not pay them at all.
Ive thought about this a bunch haha. What if they give the player a choice... receive a full scholarship, or receive the $$$ his scholarship is worth and make him pay for his school.
No fair way to do it. You pay certain players, but not others. Cant do it like that.
And just because someone gets graded out better than another player doesnt mean hes better or will be better next year. What if you have a guy thats a JR and was graded a 3rd rounder, came back and the school paid him. Another guy was a redshirt soph, graded as a 5th rounder, came back and school paid him less than the 5th rounder. Then the next year, the 5th rounder moves up as a late 1st early 2nd rounder and the other guy drops to the 6th or UDFA.
Cant go off draft grades. Do you pay a QB more than say an OL with the same grade??
Either have to pay everyone the same, or not pay them at all.
Ive thought about this a bunch haha. What if they give the player a choice... receive a full scholarship, or receive the $$$ his scholarship is worth and make him pay for his school.
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:39 pm to Methuselah
Maybe have some sort of insurance available for players in case of injury. I think Peyton had that but most players can't afford such a thing.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:50 pm to Methuselah
quote:Just buy insurance to cover the amount and make them the beneficiary. This will most likely just need to cover one or two years lost wages, but the policy could also protect for career ending injuries.
pay a players likely slotted $$
That's not a payment to the student, it's just an insurance policy for the university to help them keep student athletes on campus for 4 years.
Student gets nothing unless he/she is injured and future earning is effected. Can do the same for projected students in all sports where earning potential is much much lower.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:51 pm to biglego
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Maybe have some sort of insurance available for players in case of injury. I think Peyton had that but most players can't afford such a thing.
I know. Let the agents put up the money for the premiums.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:21 pm to LSUnKaty
Insurance policy is a good idea. But I think things have maybe gone beyond where risk of injury is the primary motivating factor for kids leaving early. I think it boils down to more of a "do I want to work for free" or "do I want to work for cash" choice. For kids who are on a track to earn a in demand degree the scholarship of course has value. But for others I don't think it has as much.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:57 pm to Methuselah
The only way I think it would work to pay college athletes is to allow them to profit off of their own images. What JF "allegedly" did. Allow them to accept $ for appearances and signings and whatnot. There is absolutely no way to pay them otherwise.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:17 pm to Methuselah
The real issue here is at the core of what the NCAA actually is, a nonprofit organization. The instant that the NCAA allows players to profit from their work, the NCAA ceases being a non-profit. Why is that important?
If the NCAA ever lost its nonprofit status, it would no longer be able to stave off antitrust lawsuits. Were it not for the nonprofit loophole, the NFL might actually have to pay for its minor league system, and those that run the NCAA would have to share their embarrassment of riches with the players that earn it.
If the NCAA ever lost its nonprofit status, it would no longer be able to stave off antitrust lawsuits. Were it not for the nonprofit loophole, the NFL might actually have to pay for its minor league system, and those that run the NCAA would have to share their embarrassment of riches with the players that earn it.
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