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Thoughts On Katie's Law?
Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:37 am
Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:37 am
I have noticed that a number of GOP governors have pushed and are pushing for implementation of a law (called Katie's law) which mandates DNA extraction and retention for felony ARRESTS...not convictions. The DNA is uploaded to the FBI system after extraction.
What are your thoughts on this law, it's methodology and whether or not the state has a compelling interest to engage in this activity.
BTW, it has been upheld by a federal court apparently.
What are your thoughts on this law, it's methodology and whether or not the state has a compelling interest to engage in this activity.
BTW, it has been upheld by a federal court apparently.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 8:40 am
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:38 am to DeltaDoc
I guess another version of meta-data, no worries for people like Decatur.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:48 am to DeltaDoc
Gross violation of privacy rights.. If Convicted...ok, but even then I almost but not quite want to believe they should be expunged from the system after full compliance with ones sentence/probation..
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:12 am to TROLA
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Gross violation of privacy rights
This!
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:24 am to DeltaDoc
Why get a search warrant requiring probable cause when you can simply arrest anyone, take a DNA sample, and then drop the charges?
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:30 am to DeltaDoc
You can make almost anything seem okay, as long as it's "for the children."
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:32 am to DeltaDoc
no worries.
It is just yet another incremental change to slowly erode our rights.
It is just yet another incremental change to slowly erode our rights.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:33 am to DeltaDoc
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What are your thoughts on this law, it's methodology and whether or not the state has a compelling interest to engage in this activity.
frick that shite... Upon conviction of a felony, I'd be ok with it, but not solely on the basis of being charged with a crime.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:44 am to DeltaDoc
Any law named after a person (especially a kid) is a terrible law.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:50 am to cwill
quote:Seemingly so.
Any law named after a person (especially a kid) is a terrible law.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:54 am to DeltaDoc
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BTW, it has been upheld by a federal court apparently
Um, I don't think you mean just any federal court. I think you mean the US Supreme Court.
ETA: Maryland v. King - decided last term.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 9:59 am
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:04 am to DeltaDoc
They act like it's hard to get a warrant signed by a judge.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:31 am to DeltaDoc
quote:
I have noticed that a number of GOP governors have pushed and are pushing for implementation of a law (called Katie's law) which mandates DNA extraction and retention for felony ARRESTS...not convictions. The DNA is uploaded to the FBI system after extraction.
BTW, it has been upheld by a federal court apparently
After reading the link below it seems while the Supreme Court did uphold the search, it doesn't seem they upheld what you posted.
It seems that they said it was a booking procedure that-
quote:
Each has different procedures, but in all cases, only a profile is created. About 13 individual markers out of some 3 billion are isolated from a suspect's DNA. That selective information does not reveal the full genetic makeup of a person and, officials stress, nothing is shared with any other public or private party, including any medical diagnostics.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:48 am to TigerintheNO
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After reading the link below it seems while the Supreme Court did uphold the search, it doesn't seem they upheld what you posted.
The markers that are registered can not only ID you, it can be used through familial testing to ID your relatives as well.
Point being, as Scalia pointed out in the USSC case, this is a gross 4th amendment violation wherein they are taking something from you without cause when you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:56 am to DeltaDoc
It's very difficult to restrict this sort of technology. If we invent it we will use it.
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