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Has anyone managed to deceive a drug test? School project
Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:29 am
Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:29 am
I'm conducting a research project and it's about drug tests and how to achieve a "false negative". Have any of you guys ever managed to pass a test, if so how did you do it?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:30 am to So_Far_Gone
quote:drake is gay
So_Far_Gone
Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:34 am to So_Far_Gone
Had a friend that did. I provided a small sample of "clean" urine and she substituted one for the other.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:35 am to So_Far_Gone
quote:
I'm conducting a research project and it's about drug tests and how to achieve a "false negative". Have any of you guys ever managed to pass a test, if so how did you do it?
All you need to know about drug tests is that the presumptive reason for their existence is to deter people from working while under the influence of narcotics, while not actually doing any sort of good job of determining that. Rather, they tend to be instruments that lead to punitive measures against people for how they spend their recreational (read: non-work) time.
There. Write that shite down & turn it in, son.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:36 am to Come2Conquer
quote:
Come2Conquer
It's not always for a job, though.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:38 am to Carolina_Girl
quote:
drake is gay
quote:
Had a friend that did. I provided a small sample of "clean" urine and she substituted one for the other.
Hmm...
Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:38 am to Carolina_Girl
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It's not always for a job, though.
Certainly not, and there are instances where the data is instructive/constructive (recovery, etc.) but by-and-large the utilization of the different tests is probably >85% pre- and post-employment.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 3:40 am to Come2Conquer
Yeah I was just talking about that with a coworker yesterday. They need to come up with a drug test that can tell if you are high right then. Not if you were high 2 or 3 days or even weeks ago.
But the alcohol test does that. I once asked a technician if people actually failed the alcohol test and he said all the time. And not just randoms he said that people fail the alcohol test even when they know that they have a scheduled appointment days in advance. Now that's a problem!
But the alcohol test does that. I once asked a technician if people actually failed the alcohol test and he said all the time. And not just randoms he said that people fail the alcohol test even when they know that they have a scheduled appointment days in advance. Now that's a problem!
Posted on 1/1/14 at 3:47 am to So_Far_Gone
Kev is this your OT alter?
quote:surrrrrrre...
I'm conducting a research project
Posted on 1/1/14 at 6:37 am to Kafka
No personal experience here. My wife ran across this in a court case one time. Short story, guy had borrowed one that was the wrong color. Busted. The Wizzonator
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:02 am to Easy
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They need to come up with a drug test that can tell if you are high right then. Not if you were high 2 or 3 days or even weeks ago.
They do for Cocaine and Opiates, they just choose not to use it. Cocaine and Opiates only stay in your system a matter of hours after use. The metabolite's that break down the drugs in you're body are what remain for days.. They don't give a damn if you are high right then, they want to know if you use at all.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 7:04 am
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:28 am to So_Far_Gone
60% of the time works every time
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:31 am to So_Far_Gone
Yes, thr cleansers work really well.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:35 am to So_Far_Gone
So when is your drug test dude? Where will you be before it?
We need to know these things gs before we can tell you how to pass it.
We need to know these things gs before we can tell you how to pass it.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 7:37 am
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:08 am to PuntBamaPunt
It soley depends on the tyep of test
if it's a stick test, or the test that you put a stick in and get the answers right there on the spot, 2 hours before the test drink 32 oz of water every 15 mintutes or so utnil your pee pee is clear white, then take 4 asprin and some b12 vitimans about 1 hour before the test and keep drinking enough water to replace the water you're peeing out.
I got random drug tested for 2 years and I was still using cocaine pretty regularly and never got a positive when I did that. As long as you didn't use like that morning you'd pass.
However if they use the machine where they take it off and have the machine that runs your test and breaks down what's in your unrine, you're fricked basically. it's not possible to fool. They will tell you if your pee is diluted, if it has b12 in it, if has too much sugar lol.
if it's a stick test, or the test that you put a stick in and get the answers right there on the spot, 2 hours before the test drink 32 oz of water every 15 mintutes or so utnil your pee pee is clear white, then take 4 asprin and some b12 vitimans about 1 hour before the test and keep drinking enough water to replace the water you're peeing out.
I got random drug tested for 2 years and I was still using cocaine pretty regularly and never got a positive when I did that. As long as you didn't use like that morning you'd pass.
However if they use the machine where they take it off and have the machine that runs your test and breaks down what's in your unrine, you're fricked basically. it's not possible to fool. They will tell you if your pee is diluted, if it has b12 in it, if has too much sugar lol.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:09 am to Breesus
To answer the OP, yes, years ago. Drank tons of water(to the point of pissing every 10-15 minutes) and passed several that way.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:19 am to So_Far_Gone
You used to be able to drink different things a couple of hours before a Drug Test that would "mask" everything.It was 100% effective.
Now they're able to determine if you've used a "masking agent" and will count it as Positive if they detect this.I think it raises your Creatine level.
The mention of sneaking "clean urine" in for the Drug Test may work.
The sample cup has a temperature strip on it.If it doesn't register a certain degree level of heat then it will not be accepted.
Like was mentioned,the type of test used.
Now they're able to determine if you've used a "masking agent" and will count it as Positive if they detect this.I think it raises your Creatine level.
The mention of sneaking "clean urine" in for the Drug Test may work.
The sample cup has a temperature strip on it.If it doesn't register a certain degree level of heat then it will not be accepted.
Like was mentioned,the type of test used.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 8:30 am
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:25 am to Breesus
# 1 way to pass a piss test - Don't do drugs...
Most common ways to cheat a piss test (in no particular order):
Whizzinator - LINK
Quick Fix Synthetic Urine - LINK
I can confirm that AHS Walk-In Clinic on Pinhook in Lafayette can now tell the difference between synthetic urine & the real thing. This was not the case for many years but about 8 months ago they came out with a new test for it. Not sure who else test for synthetic but I know 100% that they do & you will get busted!!!
Using your own piss / Detox Methods
***NEVER give urine from your first urination of the day. It's the dirtiest, and can be heavily filled with metabolites. Urinate a couple of times before giving a test sample. Also, don't give the beginning or end of the stream. Piss in the toilet, then quickly stop and go in the cup. Stop, and shift back to the toilet for the last portion. Only give a midstream sample. Just be sure to give 60 cc's.***
Water and Dilution
Drinking certain liquids like soy milk, pomegranate, water and cranberry juice can actually lower the chemical levels in your bloodstream. People who have been using this method as a way on how to pass a drug test have found pomegranate to work the best.
Hyper saturating your body with fluids will dilute metabolites possibly below the 50 ng/mL threshold, depending on your metabolism. Be aware that creatinine levels are often tested, and will show that the sample has been diluted. Diluting your sample will also produce clear urine, with virtually no yellow color. They will assume that you've diluted your sample, and they may reject your sample on the basis of color alone. It's only necessary to start drinking just before the test. Those who drown themselves in fluid days before a test are only causing unnecessary discomfort. Those who stay up all night drinking don't have any better chance than one who drinks heavily first thing in the morning. Get up early if the test is early, but don't lose sleep over a test that's given in the daytime.
Drink at least eight hefty glasses of fluid (preferably water) just prior to the test. Many people start drinking water several days before the test; which is useless. Water does *not* clean any THC metabolites out of your system because THC is not water soluble. Water only dilutes urine temporarily.
Color your sample yellow by taking 50 to 100 milligrams of vitamin B. Many vitamins will work, but B-2 or B-12 (found in B-complex vitamins) are the most effective, though some will argue that vitamin C is better. This does not guarantee that dilution will work. Diluted samples have been red-flagged when specific gravity and creatinine levels are tested and below normal. If you're taking vitamins at the last minute, check to see if they're time release. If so, crush it up and consume the powder. Coloring your urine isn't all that important because it's normal for people to have clear urine even when they don't consume much fluid.
***Personal experience***
Back in the day I was an everyday pot smoker, probably 1/4 oz. a day on average. I once passed a piss test by simply drinking 3 gallons of orange juice the morning of the test. I woke up, took a piss, drank 3 gallons of OJ, took another piss before I went for the test, took the test & filled the cup midstream as mentioned above & everything came back good to go. It wasn't a false negative, it was clean.
What WON'T work / Myths
Vinegar (or pickle juice)
There is a myth that drinking vinegar will mask drugs; it won't. However, vinegar lowers the pH of urine. Amphetamines are excreted up to 3 times as fast when urine is acidified. So vinegar could reduce the detection time period for amphetamines. The effects on detection time are generally insignificant, and it in my opinion it really wouldn't be worth it to drink vinegar. If you do decide to drink vinegar, I hear it's easiest to get a shot glass and do it in shots. It will cause diarrhea.
Dexatrim
There is a myth that taking phenylpropanolamine (Dexatrim's active ingredient) will work. It won't. In fact, Dexatrim is a false positive, and may work against you. The myth may have originated because Dexatrim was claimed to speed metabolism. However, the fact that Dextrim causes a positive makes it useless.
Goldenseal
Goldenseal is a plant and you can get either the root or the leaves in pill form. It's also a liquid or tea. The liquid is rumored to absorb slower than the capsules. Goldenseal is a diuretic, but works no better than other diuretics. Furthermore, NORML reports that Goldenseal is now being tested for. Taking Goldenseal is a foolish waste.
Most common ways to cheat a piss test (in no particular order):
Whizzinator - LINK
Quick Fix Synthetic Urine - LINK
I can confirm that AHS Walk-In Clinic on Pinhook in Lafayette can now tell the difference between synthetic urine & the real thing. This was not the case for many years but about 8 months ago they came out with a new test for it. Not sure who else test for synthetic but I know 100% that they do & you will get busted!!!
Using your own piss / Detox Methods
***NEVER give urine from your first urination of the day. It's the dirtiest, and can be heavily filled with metabolites. Urinate a couple of times before giving a test sample. Also, don't give the beginning or end of the stream. Piss in the toilet, then quickly stop and go in the cup. Stop, and shift back to the toilet for the last portion. Only give a midstream sample. Just be sure to give 60 cc's.***
Water and Dilution
Drinking certain liquids like soy milk, pomegranate, water and cranberry juice can actually lower the chemical levels in your bloodstream. People who have been using this method as a way on how to pass a drug test have found pomegranate to work the best.
Hyper saturating your body with fluids will dilute metabolites possibly below the 50 ng/mL threshold, depending on your metabolism. Be aware that creatinine levels are often tested, and will show that the sample has been diluted. Diluting your sample will also produce clear urine, with virtually no yellow color. They will assume that you've diluted your sample, and they may reject your sample on the basis of color alone. It's only necessary to start drinking just before the test. Those who drown themselves in fluid days before a test are only causing unnecessary discomfort. Those who stay up all night drinking don't have any better chance than one who drinks heavily first thing in the morning. Get up early if the test is early, but don't lose sleep over a test that's given in the daytime.
Drink at least eight hefty glasses of fluid (preferably water) just prior to the test. Many people start drinking water several days before the test; which is useless. Water does *not* clean any THC metabolites out of your system because THC is not water soluble. Water only dilutes urine temporarily.
Color your sample yellow by taking 50 to 100 milligrams of vitamin B. Many vitamins will work, but B-2 or B-12 (found in B-complex vitamins) are the most effective, though some will argue that vitamin C is better. This does not guarantee that dilution will work. Diluted samples have been red-flagged when specific gravity and creatinine levels are tested and below normal. If you're taking vitamins at the last minute, check to see if they're time release. If so, crush it up and consume the powder. Coloring your urine isn't all that important because it's normal for people to have clear urine even when they don't consume much fluid.
***Personal experience***
Back in the day I was an everyday pot smoker, probably 1/4 oz. a day on average. I once passed a piss test by simply drinking 3 gallons of orange juice the morning of the test. I woke up, took a piss, drank 3 gallons of OJ, took another piss before I went for the test, took the test & filled the cup midstream as mentioned above & everything came back good to go. It wasn't a false negative, it was clean.
What WON'T work / Myths
Vinegar (or pickle juice)
There is a myth that drinking vinegar will mask drugs; it won't. However, vinegar lowers the pH of urine. Amphetamines are excreted up to 3 times as fast when urine is acidified. So vinegar could reduce the detection time period for amphetamines. The effects on detection time are generally insignificant, and it in my opinion it really wouldn't be worth it to drink vinegar. If you do decide to drink vinegar, I hear it's easiest to get a shot glass and do it in shots. It will cause diarrhea.
Dexatrim
There is a myth that taking phenylpropanolamine (Dexatrim's active ingredient) will work. It won't. In fact, Dexatrim is a false positive, and may work against you. The myth may have originated because Dexatrim was claimed to speed metabolism. However, the fact that Dextrim causes a positive makes it useless.
Goldenseal
Goldenseal is a plant and you can get either the root or the leaves in pill form. It's also a liquid or tea. The liquid is rumored to absorb slower than the capsules. Goldenseal is a diuretic, but works no better than other diuretics. Furthermore, NORML reports that Goldenseal is now being tested for. Taking Goldenseal is a foolish waste.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:37 am to So_Far_Gone
I was on color code for 9 months in my early 20's and I used to take a piece of napkin and soak it in bleach and swallow it like a pill. Passed all drug tests and smoked weed the whole time.
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