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Drummer question? Old drums??

Posted on 12/31/13 at 4:09 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26995 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 4:09 pm
Never hear people talk about this. They are wooden as well? But you never hear about a guy playing a "vintage" set of drums. Does the abuse just wear the drum out over time? Not the head of course. I know those are replaced.

Just never hear of people using a Gretsch 1970 set? Or something like it?

Is this true. Or is it just me?
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50249 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 4:11 pm to
They sound better, IMNSHO. I played some sweet old Ludwigs.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26995 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

They sound better, IMNSHO. I played some sweet old Ludwigs.



Really???

You just never seem to hear about it like you do with guitars.

Even acoustic guitars you can go back to the 50's for better and better sound. Never hear about drums and drummers talking about it like you hear about a "77' Les Paul" or a "1958 Martin" as examples pulled out of my arse.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 4:27 pm to
I have a really old Tama set. I'm not sure of the year exactly, I'll look into it. I'd say it's probably from the late 70s early 80s. I also have a Zildjian crash/ride from the 70s. It is incredible.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50249 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 4:34 pm to
I guess wood is wood (unless plywood or melamina or whatever), but I think some woods are better than others.

The big thing, is the wood sound next to the plastic polymers, etc.....IMO. They sound ´tinny´ and vapid.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 5:06 pm to
My friend has a 1960s Slingerland kit. It sounds beautiful.
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
3471 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:16 pm to
I think us drummers are, in large part, a different breed. For example, every guitar player I know enjoys each new scratch and ding he gets on his guitar.

Conversely, us drummers tend to freak out over the tiniest nick, which lends itself to vintage kits being locked away so they don't get damaged.

Having said that, I know a few drummers who regularly gig on vintage snare drums and with vintage cymbals. Also, Sam McCandless (the drummer for Cold) plays a vintage kit (Slingerland, I think) and he beats the bloody hell out if it...
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:33 pm to
I'm more of a guitarist than a drummer, but I'm pretty good at both. Have been playing both since I was a kid, and just turned 24.

The scratches and stuff on a guitar, I do like to an extent. It adds character to your guitar. I have a strat that's chipped and scratched from being dropped and hit. I think it looks cool. I received a crack in my Taylor and freaked out, good thing the guy fixed it and made it hardly noticeable.

For my drums, everything is vintage outside of the snare and two splash cymbals. My hi hats and crash ride are super old. The drums do look kinda worn, but I like the look of them. The Pearl Whit they oroginally were has basically turned into a smoky tannish color. I also beat the shite out of the drums, I play them really hard. I get pissed off when cymbals crack, but that vintage crash/ride will not.
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
3471 posts
Posted on 1/1/14 at 10:46 am to
I'm intrigued. Do ya know the make/model of the old crash-ride?
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117709 posts
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:11 am to
Gotta be a Zildjian.

I also had a Pearl and Ludwig kit, (the Ludwig was my first back in the mid 90's).

The Pearl kit had a sweeter sound to it, and was about 15 years newer, but the Ludwigs were visually more appealing.

As far as snares go, my Pearl free floating head I used for competition in solos was the sweetest, cleanest sound ever produced by a drum.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:18 am to
I'm ready for my cymbals to get that lovely patina.
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
3471 posts
Posted on 1/1/14 at 1:41 pm to
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I'm ready for my cymbals to get that lovely patina.


My old Paiste 602 ride is finally getting a few of those green oxidization splotches...
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
3471 posts
Posted on 1/1/14 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Pearl free floating head I used for competition in solos was the sweetest, cleanest sound ever produced by a drum


Yeah? Metal shell, or wood? I'm geeking for a new snare and, in the wake of my last metal snare experience (a brass 6.5 x 14 Pork Pie), I've been a little skeptical.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 7:41 am
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 1/1/14 at 6:22 pm to
It's a zildjian. It's hard to see the engraving, but all it has is avedis zildjian engraved.


I'll try to get a picture.
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