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How is the government anything other than a GIANT insurance corporation?
Posted on 12/30/13 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 12/30/13 at 5:36 pm
Don't liberals hate large corporations and monopolies? Why is a Wal-Mart of insurance ok? When you see ads for healthcare.gov, doors it look any different than ads fir anything else?
With the government, we can get employment insurance, retirement insurance, food insurance, and now health insurance. By "can get" I mean "forced to buy." We have no say in the price, the "benefits," etc. Government is the only entity that can fine or imprison you for not purchasing their products. We are governed by a bunch of insurance salesmen. Tell me how I'm wrong.
With the government, we can get employment insurance, retirement insurance, food insurance, and now health insurance. By "can get" I mean "forced to buy." We have no say in the price, the "benefits," etc. Government is the only entity that can fine or imprison you for not purchasing their products. We are governed by a bunch of insurance salesmen. Tell me how I'm wrong.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 5:41 pm to SoulGlo
some legit parallels
but their motive is something other than profit maximization
but their motive is something other than profit maximization
Posted on 12/30/13 at 5:46 pm to SoulGlo
But it's rich politicians and their friends making all the money, not greedy old rich white guys.
They somehow think the government actually has their best interest and not just figuring out a way to redistribute wealth to themselves.
They somehow think the government actually has their best interest and not just figuring out a way to redistribute wealth to themselves.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 5:55 pm to 90proofprofessional
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some legit parallels
but their motive is something other than profit maximization
Are you sure about that? They always want to grow it, it's never enough, and they even build automatic growth into their budget every year. How is it not profit motivated?
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 12/30/13 at 6:03 pm to 90proofprofessional
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but their motive is something other than profit maximization
Very true. It's profit CONFISCATION, in service to the economic social justice ideology.
Mud on the wall. We'll see what sticks.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:57 pm to RCDfan1950
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Very true. It's profit CONFISCATION, in service to the economic social justice ideology.
Right, government(democrat) motives are only to help people. There's no other motive than altruism.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:27 am to SoulGlo
quote:maybe some do. It's hardly a key facet of the belief system. Walmart is awesome for poor people.
Don't liberals hate large corporations
quote:not really the same thing
monopolies
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:50 am to Tigah in the ATL
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Don't liberals hate large corporations
maybe some do. It's hardly a key facet of the belief system. Walmart is awesome for poor people.
The vast majority do. You seem to be in a tiny minority. Good for you.
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monopolies
not really the same thing
How long do you think it will take for the force of government to create a monopoly in the health insurance industry? According to Obama, 10-15 years.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 1:03 am to SoulGlo
Considering real world insurance is the spreading of risk with duty to defend its really not a close parallel at all.
Also you have contractual rights to sue your carrier. Good luck suing uncle sam
Also you have contractual rights to sue your carrier. Good luck suing uncle sam
Posted on 12/31/13 at 1:04 am to SoulGlo
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10-15 years
I think that is a generous range
Posted on 12/31/13 at 2:12 am to Mr.Perfect
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Considering real world insurance is the spreading of risk with duty to defend its really not a close parallel at all.
Also you have contractual rights to sue your carrier. Good luck suing uncle sam
This is really my point. The federal government, as it's being run, is a giant insurance company except for the fact that we as citizens have no recourse whatsoever. Liberals hate corporations because of their "power," but corporate power can never stack up to the monopoly of force. The government now forces us to buy various policies and products, and there's not a damn thing we can do about it as individuals. The only way we can escape a bad insurance product is to fricking leave our homeland.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 2:21 am to SoulGlo
quote:or elect people with whom you agree.
The only way we can escape a bad insurance product is to fricking leave our homeland
Posted on 12/31/13 at 2:54 am to Vegas Bengal
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The only way we can escape a bad insurance product is to fricking leave our homeland
or elect people with whom you agree.
I can elect all the people I have the power to, but unelected bureaucrats hold the power there. Nice try.
This post was edited on 12/31/13 at 2:55 am
Posted on 12/31/13 at 6:54 am to 90proofprofessional
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some legit parallels
but their motive is something other than profit maximization
It's power maximization.
That's why there will NEVER be a reasonably simple tax system, too much power in compelling activity with arcane predatory tax rules.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:58 am to gthog61
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quote:
some legit parallels
but their motive is something other than profit maximization
It's power maximization.
That's why there will NEVER be a reasonably simple tax system, too much power in compelling activity with arcane predatory tax rules.
And these guys bitch about "predatory lending." With the "predatory lending," the "victim" has to accept the terms and agree to the "predation" by either not reading the contract or not caring about the consequence.
With the laws, nobody can do shite. The politicians can pass the laws and they're protected by the donors who wanted the laws passed. The "regulators" (read: the mob) are accountable to nobody.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:10 am to 90proofprofessional
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but their motive is something other than profit maximization
Debt maximization?
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:13 pm to moneyg
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but their motive is something other than profit maximization
Debt maximization?
which leads to future power when the system is overloaded with debt.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:46 pm to SoulGlo
Well, there is the matter of the most powerful military the world has ever seen!
Just having a little fun. I have heard the current US government as a health insurance company with an army.
Just having a little fun. I have heard the current US government as a health insurance company with an army.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:56 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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Walmart is awesome for poor people.
I go to Walmart every other day. They are the only store that carries the Gumballs that Lucy likes. She throws away the orange ones. She hates orange Gumballs and I can't even give it to the dogs since gum is not good for them.
They are also open at 5 a.m. so I can do some shopping before Starbucks opens at 5:30.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 4:35 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
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Just having a little fun. I have heard the current US government as a health insurance company with an army.
Liberals, eat your heart out!
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