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What is the MSB's opinion of Jimmy V?

Posted on 12/17/13 at 6:16 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 6:16 pm
Jimmy Valvano died before I got to junior high, but from everything I've heard and read, he was a solid coach and a helluva speaker. His ESPY speech is simply incredible, and I thoroughly enjoyed the "Survive and Advance" 30 for 30 on the 1982-83 NCST national championship team with Valvano at the helm.

ESPY Speech
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12064 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 6:18 pm to
His brother's an idiot and still owes me a prize from the Match Game.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 6:23 pm to
Really good coach and great personality. His program smelled a little fishy at the end, so there was a scandal that was probably bigger than it should have been since he was the AD at NCSt at the time as well. Forced to resign, which I thought was a shame because I liked him and figured he probably didn't break any rules per se so much as violated the spirit of the law. Spent some time in the booth after NCSt and was really good, but very soon he got too sick to work anymore.

Jim Valvano was sort of a mix between Al McGuire, Dick Vitale, and John Calipari.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 6:26 pm to
I love his ESPY speech. My Dad and I watched it every year since like 1995, and I watch it with my son whenever it's on tv.

He was coach of one of the greatest teams of all-time. Would have loved to see him maybe coach a different team, and certainly for his tenure at NCSU to end better than it did.

Seemed like a decent guy, his players obviously loved him.
This post was edited on 12/17/13 at 6:27 pm
Posted by OutofTownAlumni
Member since Nov 2013
3036 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

He was coach of one of the greatest teams of all-time.


what?
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 6:30 pm to
Ok one of the greatest tournament teams of all-time
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

He was coach of a team that beat one of the greatest teams of all-time
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 6:50 pm to
Still can't believe the beat Phi Slamma Jamma.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 6:57 pm to
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He was coach of one of the luckiest teams of all-time.


FIFY
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:01 pm to
Hell of a grandfather clock repairman.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:08 pm to

quote:

He was coach of one of the luckiest teams of all-time.

The run they had just to get to the title game was incredible. The last play may have been lucky in your opinion, but it was certaintly not the only reason they won.
This post was edited on 12/17/13 at 7:11 pm
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:14 pm to
My dad is a die-hard NCSU fan. Jimmy V. was an idol to him. He would walk me down to court side before games to catch a glimpse of him.

He caught a bad deal, IMO and didn't deserve how his career at State ended. It was a special time when Valvano, Smith and Coach K were all within a few miles of each other.

That speech is one of the most powerful things I've ever seen and it never gets old. I hope when my time comes, I can face it with the same courage and strength that he did.
Posted by PrimetimeDaBoss
Swag City, USA
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:22 pm to
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Hell of a grandfather clock repairman.


This.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:53 pm to
I remember their run...and that shot on TV.

But, at the time...I didn't really know the backstory.

When you watch the documentary...which details their run to the championship....

...(And I don't say this lightly) -

literally the greatest Cinderella - luck - moxie - mental toughness - underdog story ever in sports.

Their run...is like make-believe...from needing a miracle to make the tourney - and then the miracles in the tourney.

Jimmy made them believe...and his players loved him.

That's the type of coach he was.
This post was edited on 12/17/13 at 7:55 pm
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16844 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

He caught a bad deal, IMO and didn't deserve how his career at State ended. It was a special time when Valvano, Smith and Coach K were all within a few miles of each other.

That speech is one of the most powerful things I've ever seen and it never gets old. I hope when my time comes, I can face it with the same courage and strength that he did.


Agree
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13070 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:28 pm to
All I know is Jimmy V Week gets old after 1 day
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

Message Posted by TexasTiger1185 All I know is Jimmy V Week gets old after 1 day

Maybe you can has cancer and then tell us how you really feel?
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by IonaTiger
The Commonwealth Of Virginia
Member since Mar 2006
33053 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:40 pm to
I will always love Jimmy V and his time at Iona, but he was no saint. When he left for NC State it was right before a scandal involving Jeff Ruland taking money from him during the recruiting process and while he played as a Gael came to light. It was also right before it became public that Big Jeff had signed with an agent while at Iona. Ruland left Iona at the end of his Junior year and was drafted in the second round.

In 1980 the Gaels, led by Ruland, beat the eventual national champion at Madison Square Garden by 17 points. Iona was ranked as high as 19 that season, but Jeff never felt he got the notoriety he deserved on a national level. When Jimmy accepted the job at NC State (before telling his players) the friendship between he and Valvano ended and the bad press started to come out. I am not sure that they ever repaired that rift, although, Jimmy always credited Jeff for putting him on the big stage.

Iona is what it is, a good mid-major basketball team. We have an undergraduate enrollment of less than 3500 and have to compete for NYC talent with the Big East. It's former coaches, such as Valvano, Pat Kennedy, Tim Welsh, Kevin Willard and several former MAAC coaches have moved up. It won't be long before our present coach, Tim Cluess, is snatched up by a big. In his 3 years at Iona he has had 3 20+ win seasons and has guided the Gaels to two consecutive NCAA appearances (and our first at large bid 2 seasons ago). We at Iona will enjoy his stay, but we know it's probably not for the long run, just like Jimmy V.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:54 pm to
I don't think most people care about Iona.

And Mr. Saint himself - Coach K - said Jimmy V didn't do anything wrong or bad or against the NCAA...but players did and he got the blame.
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