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Does college basketball or football more accurately decide a champion?

Posted on 12/13/13 at 11:50 pm
Posted by Ed Wuncler III
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 11:50 pm
Does anyone really believe that a 64 team tournament accurately decides a champion? As much hate as the BCS gets, over the past ten years which sport has had the best team be the champion more consistently? To me it is no doubt football, and I prefer college basketball to football.
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 11:51 pm
Posted by Tactical1
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 11:53 pm to
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Does anyone really believe that a 64 team tournament accurately decides a champion?


You can't say it doesn't give everyone a chance to prove it.
Posted by PrimetimeDaBoss
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 11:56 pm to
A playoff doesn't show who the BEST team is, it shows who the HOTTEST team is.
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:00 am to
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A playoff doesn't show who the BEST team is, it shows who the HOTTEST team is.
Which means they were the best at that time.
Posted by Overbrook
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:01 am to
College basketball does a much better job of determining a champion.
Now, does it do a better job of determining who the best team is? It's about even between the two methods.
This year in football, the best team is Florida State, and, if not them, Alabama. But Auburn certainly could win the championship game....because they've gotten hot. But they aren't the best team.
Posted by apfour21
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:08 am to
The winner of college basketball is more deserving than football imo.
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:18 am to
Yep, a playoff shows who is the best at that given time, not necessarily who was the best all season

ETA: given the last 10 years, I think the best overall team in football has usually won. Not the case in basketball
This post was edited on 12/14/13 at 12:20 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:24 am to
What if they had beaten lsu that night?
Posted by ClydeFrog
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:36 am to
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Which means they were the best at that time.


I agree.


I think football is much more accurate because it does more to account for an entire season. As we saw this year and in most previous years, a teams effort must be dang year perfect for a chance at the title.

Basketball gives too many additional chances to mediocre teams.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:37 am to
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College basketball does a much better job of determining a champion.

Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:50 am to
The key word is "accurate"

The football champion over the last 15 years has been the more accurate champion.
Posted by Ed Wuncler III
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:50 am to
I agree with most of ya'll. Even the NFL playoff is a lot about whos hot. I think the BCS is one of those things people wont miss till its gone...
Posted by RemouladeSawce
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:50 am to
All it takes in CBB is one night when the shots don't fall and that's it. Might not even matter how the opposing defense is playing.
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:56 am to
Isn't that just true in basketball in general?
Posted by PrimetimeDaBoss
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:58 am to
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Which means they were the best at that time.



Exactly. Not the best over the entirety of the season.
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:58 am to
Define "champion"

By definition college basketball and football are equally accurate in defining a champion, because they set parameters for determining who is allowed to compete in the championship, and they rightfully recognize the victor of the championship as the champion...
Posted by chrisksaint
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 1:05 am to
Football easily. I enjoy the way basketball does it as it's entertaining and includes all the conference winners, but it's almost like the regular season does not matter at all as long as you can win a conference tourney or just be ranked.

In football by the end of the season you clearly know who the top teams are and usually can't argue against those chosen for the title game unless you are a fan of a team left out.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 1:14 am to
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Isn't that just true in basketball in general?
Sure, but in the NBA, a 7-game series prevents against a team from getting eliminated based on one uncharacteristically poor night.
Posted by Ed Wuncler III
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 1:14 am to
Well all the NCAA(and everyone else) cares about money and thats about it. The NCAA makes so much money off the basketball tourney they don't care. And they will love having all the extra important football games.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 1:37 am to
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Does anyone really believe that a 64 team tournament accurately decides a champion?
It's the only thing a tournament does.

To further support how awesome March Madness is, the champion must win six straight games (or possibly seven, depending on seeding) over tournament teams. I can't remember, but I think like five teams won six straight over tournament teams in the regular season last year. To win the tournament, you have to do something that almost no team in the country can ever do.

To the people who say that to be the champ, you only have to be hot at the right time, that's not a good argument. There's two possible paths to a championship:
1) Win your conference tournament and then win the NCAA tournament. That means you have to be perfect for an entire month. "Hot at the right time" doesn't really apply. Going undefeated for a month with at least 75% of that month coming against tournament teams means way more than "being hot at the right time."
2) Be in the 20th percentile of teams during the regular season and then win the tournament. That's not "hot at the right time." That's completely deserving of the title.
This post was edited on 12/14/13 at 1:43 am
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