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Satanists seek spot next to Ten Commandments monument on steps of OK's Statehous
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:13 am
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:13 am
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In their zeal to tout their faith in the public square, conservatives in Oklahoma may have unwittingly opened the door to a wide range of religious groups, including satanists who are seeking to put their own statue next to a Ten Commandments monument on the Statehouse steps.
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Greaves said one potential design involves a pentagram, a satanic symbol, while another is meant to be an interactive display for children (). He said he expects the monument, if approved by Oklahoma officials, would cost about $20,000.
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:18 am to PuntBamaPunt
I hope they succeed.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:20 am to PuntBamaPunt
Oh wow
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:20 am to WikiTiger
quote:Why?
I hope they succeed.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:24 am to WikiTiger
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I hope they succeed.
This. One of the state reps already called them nut jobs for wanting this. I think its nutty to think your religious beliefs should be touted over all others.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:26 am to NC_Tigah
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Why?
It will further his agenda of governmental collapse. Which for some reason he thinks is wonderful. Total anarchy sounds good eh?
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:27 am to NC_Tigah
Fair is fair.
If Christians can have their message on public grounds then so should every other belief if they want.
There is a solution that would prevent the satanists from doing what they want, but most Christians are unwilling to accept it.
If Christians can have their message on public grounds then so should every other belief if they want.
There is a solution that would prevent the satanists from doing what they want, but most Christians are unwilling to accept it.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:30 am to PuntBamaPunt
What 'religion' do the Ten Commandments tout? Judaism? Christianity? Both?
I would have no problem with the satanists having a spot on the public square IF there was some satanist text included that has to do with laws. The Ten Commandments were an early set of laws. That's why they're displayed at courthouses.
They're not at the Post Office or the DMV, they're at the courthouse.
I would have no problem with the satanists having a spot on the public square IF there was some satanist text included that has to do with laws. The Ten Commandments were an early set of laws. That's why they're displayed at courthouses.
They're not at the Post Office or the DMV, they're at the courthouse.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:33 am to WikiTiger
I say go for it too. It's silly to think one religious group has a right to do this over any others. Maybe they'll remove the original monument.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:35 am to mtntiger
Some if the commandments are not modern laws in the USA. So it's clearly a religious thing.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:44 am to WikiTiger
quote:Why single out Christians. The Commandments are Jewish.
If Christians can have their message on public grounds
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:45 am to TheIndulger
Man if only there was some way to separate the church and state...
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:47 am to Manky
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Man if only there was some way to separate the church and state...
No shite.
That night I spent in the poky for saying 'god dammit' still haunts me.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:50 am to NC_Tigah
Do you think a Jewish group lobbied for and funded the display in question?
While you are right in that the commandments are also a Jewish belief, in this case they are a Christian symbol. But you knew that already, you just wanted to be petty.
While you are right in that the commandments are also a Jewish belief, in this case they are a Christian symbol. But you knew that already, you just wanted to be petty.
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:51 am to WikiTiger
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Fair is fair.
It is, (and I'm very far from being a satanist) but the truth is the truth.
If they were smart they would concede the ACLU case, tell them "my bad, you're correct", remove the commandments and make the forward policy "no religious symbols".
This is the only way to keep out the satanist.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:55 am to TrueTiger
I believe that not only should they be allowed to display right next to the ten commandments. If the government funded the 10 commandments, it should fund the satanist display.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:56 am to PuntBamaPunt
THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!!!
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:57 am to WikiTiger
quote:But they are a Muslim belief too, are they not?
While you are right in that the commandments are also a Jewish belief
Posted on 12/9/13 at 11:03 am to NC_Tigah
Your point is irrelevant. It doesn't matter how many religions a symbol encompasses, only that it is a religious symbol. And if a religious symbol is allowed on public grounds then it needs to be open to the symbols of other religions.
do you agree or disagree with that?
do you agree or disagree with that?
Posted on 12/9/13 at 11:03 am to WikiTiger
quote:No. They are a symbol of legal heritage. If you'd like to assert that Hammurabi's Code should be there, you'd have some standing. The Satanist thing is off point and silly.
in this case they are a Christian symbol.
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