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NFL Downfield passing stats...Geno chucks it with the best of them

Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:02 pm
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:02 pm
I know this is from Saturday, but I hadn't seen it posted here (searched I swear!): LINK

Data is from 2008 to now. Granted his sample size is smaller, but Geno is chucking it downfield at a rate among the highest in the league (6th overall),


His downfield accuracy (as measured by PFF's accuracy* figure) ranks 4th overall


Like Smith, Wilson and Kaep's sample sizes are smaller compared to the majority of the list, but it is interesting to see where they are ranked compared to Luck.

Obligatory LOL at Joe Flacco.

* PFF's Accuracy Percentage

quote:

we’ve accounted for a set of factors that help better define a quarterback’s performance on passes that were actually aimed at (and delivered to) a targeted receiver. We add back in dropped passes to give the QB credit for getting the ball to its destination and take away ‘attempts’ that were actually throwaways, spikes, or balls that were batted at the line and those that fluttered from his hand when hit as he threw
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 1:07 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:10 pm to
So Russell Wilson throws the second most, and is the overall most accurate? That's a good combination to have..
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:11 pm to
So it's pretty obvious that the only reason why Wilson, Kaep, and Smith are in the top 4 is cuz they just started playing.

Especially considering how terrible Kaep has been this season.

Damn Drew Brees is amazing
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

So it's pretty obvious that the only reason why Wilson, Kaep, and Smith are in the top 4 is cuz they just started playing.


This was my initial thought as well, but Manuel and Luck both have high downfield rates with not-so-stellar accuracy ratings.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:18 pm to
matty ice
Posted by floridatigah
FL
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:18 pm to
So he's been a great downfield passer so far and is still the worst starting QB in the league. Has to be real encouraging for the Jets.
Posted by Landsharks
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:18 pm to
Eli is better then Peyton TIFWIW
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:19 pm to
I don't think the small sample size affects much. Referring to Kaepernicus specifically, when he pulls the trigger on the deep ball it is usually on target to open receivers. It is his general decision making and sub-20 yard throws have been responsible for this year's relative suck fest.

There are a lot of variables outside of the QB's control that go into how many deep balls are thrown and caught. Of the Top 10 in accuracy, only #3 and #5 are players I would consider consistently stellar with the deep ball.
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 1:38 pm
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:22 pm to
That just means they are better than Manuel and Luck.

You have a younger QB with a younger arm that has only played for a year and a year and a half, it seems like common sense would dictate they throw it deep further and it isnt surprising that they are more accurate.

Its amazing that Brees is the best with a surgically repaired shoulder.

I think this graphic shows best the benefit of younger arms for throwing deep.
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

I don't think the small sample size affects much. Referring to Kaepernicus specifically, when he pulls the trigger on the deep ball it is usually on target. The general decision making and sub-20 yard throws have been responsible for this year's suck fest.
Agreed. He chunks it to Davis pretty well. I honestly think his biggest problem is his decision making in the pocket. He looks like if his initial target isn't there he starts to scramble immediately and takes away half the field away
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:35 pm to
geno's arm strength and accuracy have never really been a question. Its his clock knowing when to get rid of the ball and his pouting like a bitch when things go wrong which can be an issue.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
32417 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:49 pm to
Not that surprising. That's all he did at WV was chuck it deep.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:51 pm to
Checkdown King?

SHOCKED
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:52 pm to
But Jaws told me Matty Ice throws one of the best deep balls in the league?
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123623 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:55 pm to
Jaws also called Kaep the GOAT
Posted by Sophandros
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Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

So it's pretty obvious that the only reason why Wilson, Kaep, and Smith are in the top 4 is cuz they just started playing.

Especially considering how terrible Kaep has been this season.

Damn Drew Brees is amazing



Think about this:

Wilson, Kaep, and Smith all play in run first offenses, so their deep throws are usually off play action and with a WR in single coverage.

Brees plays in a pass first offense--though a lot of his deep throws come from play action--which means that teams are scheming against the deep ball anyway. To be that successful despite that is pretty damned awesome.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:35 pm to
Hopefully people will quit calling Brady a great deep thrower.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 4:32 pm to
Only idiots say that.
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