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Ok. Now what?


Should we legally protect these human characteristics from discrimination in the private sector? Should we allow the private sector to discriminate along these lines to the benefit of those who only possess "protected" characteristics?






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I don't believe that's correct.


It's not.






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Mickey Goldmill
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That is the epitome of a bigoted statement, right there....Southaphobic, too.



I'm from the south, live there currently, and love living here. If you can't admit that in general terms, the south is less "progressive" as far as minority and women's rights, then I really can't help you.






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If you are white you can be discriminated against in hiring to meet "affirmative action" requirements. That's discrimination based upon race. They quickly support such discrimination because they see it as "righting the wrongs of the past." Of course, wronging someone in the present does nothing to punish the wrongs of the past and to the individuals that committed those wrongs but only punishes the innocent of today.





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I don't believe that's correct. Unless my understanding of discrimination law is in error (which is possible), unless something is specifically identified as a criteria that can't be discriminated against, someone can legally discriminate against it.
Yes. You're right. I should explain it more clearly.

I will not be denied ice cream at a Baskin Robbins because of my race. This is because I am protected by either a) the fact that Baskin Robbins has a policy against such discrimination or b) the law prohibits such discrimination.

I will not be denied ice cream at a Baskin Robbins because of the size of my feet. This is because virtually no one on earth would think to sell ice cream to people based on foot size.

My race and foot size, when it comes to buying ice cream at Baskin Robins, are equally protected though one is protected by company policy and/or law and the other is protected by the fact that nobody in the history of the world has ever said "We don't take kindly to your big foot types in this ice cream store."

Basically, we all agree that denying me ice cream because of my foot size is retarded. We also all agree that denying me ice cream because of my race (or sex, or religious affiliation, or sexuality) is equally retarded.

If you have an ideological problem with anti-discrimination laws, I get that. If you have a practical problem with anti-discrimination laws, you're a retard, and frick you.



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If you can't admit that in general terms, the south is less "progressive" as far as minority and women's rights, then I really can't help you.


To be fair, there isn't exactly a thriving minority population outside of the South and West. It's very convenient to say that Vermont and Maine and Minnesota are accepting of racial diversity when they have no racial diversity.






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"We don't take kindly to your big foot types in this ice cream store."


Actually, bigfoots which are animals are not allowed in Baskin-Robbins. Only seeing-eye dogs are allowed.






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To be fair, there isn't exactly a thriving minority population outside of the South and West. It's very convenient to say that Vermont and Maine and Minnesota are accepting of racial diversity when they have no racial diversity.


Those lovely states, like Oregon, often had laws that banned blacks from moving and living within their boundaries.

A.M., these guys that support this dangerous legislation are in fact using government to force their beliefs upon others. Freedom allows for those you disagree with to live freely and not be forced to do as you wish. Sadly they do not see how totalitarian their wishes are and how dangerous they eventually become even to those that support such.



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They do not list women but they do this:

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Children cannot be accommodated at the hotel.
Extra beds are not available.
The maximum number of total guests in a room is 2.



It's a hotel. Why in the hell are children not allowed at a hotel? Age discrimination? Discrimination against families?






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If you can't admit that in general terms, the south is less "progressive" as far as minority and women's rights, then I really can't help you.
Detroit is far and away the most racially despicable locale I've encountered. Nothing I've encountered in the South comes close. Nor am I aware of Southern Cities targeting blacks with stop and frisk actions.







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Detroit is far and away the most racially despicable locale I've encountered. Nothing I've encountered in the South comes close. Nor am I aware of Southern Cities targeting blacks with stop and frisk actions.

Boston is really "progressive," too.






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you're a retard, and frick you.


Well that tone changed pretty quickly






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you're a retard, and frick you.








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If you can't admit that in general terms, the south is less "progressive" as far as minority and women's rights, then I really can't help you.


Before I started dating someone living in NYC (Queens, specifically) I would have agreed. While the neighborhood is about as culturally diverse as it can get, the overt cultural (and sometimes racial) favoritisms that are seen as day-to-day events there would be the subject of protests and ridicule here. Here in the South "white flight" is something to be ashamed of but outside of the South you have places like "Little Italy" and "Chinatown".

Heck, just as many businesses that get busted for racial discrimination are in the North as in the South.

So what you have is a part of the country that is kept on a short leash because the behvior is expected and a part of the country where it's more allowed because it's not expected.






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A.M., these guys that support this dangerous legislation are in fact using government to force their beliefs upon others. Freedom allows for those you disagree with to live freely and not be forced to do as you wish. Sadly they do not see how totalitarian their wishes are and how dangerous they eventually become even to those that support such.


Do you not understand that anti discrimination laws protect everyone? A Christian can't be fired simply for being a Christian. A black business owner can't fire a white man just for being white.

I understand your point, but there has to be protections for minority groups. People should be treated as equals and that historically has not happened without the laws to protect them. Just in some cases society has progressed without the need of laws, but in a general sense, this has come after the laws have been put into effect.






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Well that tone changed pretty quickly

The general you. In French, I would have said "On" and not "Tu" or "Vous."






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I'm from the south, live there currently, and love living here. If you can't admit that in general terms, the south is less "progressive" as far as minority and women's rights, then I really can't help you.


so you're saying you've never been to Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, Boston....






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I'm from the south, live there currently, and love living here.


So, what? Means nothing.

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If you can't admit that in general terms, the south is less "progressive" as far as minority and women's rights, then I really can't help you.


I agree that you offer nothing I would find of help but beyond that, I would suggest that you have led a sheltered life in this respect. The South in general certainly has a history of poor relations between different races (because let's face it, it was the primary place where they lived side by side), but if you want a really top notch case of segregation and bigotry, you have to go where the pros are. You haven't seen prejudice until you venture into the larger urban areas outside of the South. Hell, they even segregate between countries of origin within the same "race." As far as women go, I'm unaware of any prejudice against women currently that is specific to the South. I am, however, aware that many women in the South choose to work for their families instead of outside of the home. It's not for descriminatory hiring practices, though.






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so you're saying you've never been to Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, Boston....
Exactly.






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I have a very hard time with the notion government can tell me or anyone who they can or cannot do business with. All of you supporting this are not any better than any of the dictatorial governments of the past.
I will never allow you to force you concept of right/wrong, equality or whatever on me.



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