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re: NCAA approves low seamed ball! Effective 2015 season

Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:21 pm to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:21 pm to
You still haven't convinced me how this is boring or unfair. I, from the beginning, have been 100% behind the new ball. But that is because I'm for balance. I do not think the World Series was unfair or boring because all teams played on the same field. Some made adjustments and took advantage; others chocked. LSU lost because our 3-5 hitters were the worst they've been all year and our defense blew big plays.
Posted by rbdallas
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:24 pm to
you obviously like a different type of baseball than I do..
you are entitled....so am I.

when balls can not carry, it favors team with pitching instead of hitting teams.

if the low score is caused due to great defensive plays, then I enjoy the game.

quote:

LSU lost because our 3-5 hitters were the worst they've been all year and our defense blew big plays.


you are right in their output, but a couple of hits would have been home runs in almost any other park, including some major league ones.
...and yes, they made some bad and untimely errors.



This post was edited on 11/5/13 at 7:27 pm
Posted by rbdallas
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:32 pm to
interesting bit of info regarding the bats...

According to Dr. Alan Nathan, a baseball physicist who also serves as a member of the NCAA Baseball Research Panel, the NCAA changed the way it measures bats in order to provide a more consistent performance limit (for a detailed explanation of the old and new measurement methods, read Dr. Nathan's article). The limit for non-wood bats was set at a level that is just barely “bouncier” than the bounciest wood bats available.

Nathan’s research has indicated that restricting bats via the new standard lowers the batted ball speed by about 6 mph for a typical fly ball of 380-400 feet.

Analyzing an aerodynamic model for batted balls (Hit Tracker), a reduction of 6 mph in batted ball speed corresponds to a 30-foot reduction in distance. Home run data from MLB over the last five and one-half seasons suggests that this would reduce home runs by roughly 50 percent. Data from all Division I games in 2010 and 2011 fit well with this analytical estimate: Home runs have dropped from 0.94 per team per game in 2010 to 0.52 in 2011, a 42 percent reduction.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:33 pm to
You can say that about any game/ballpark. Some have big foul areas. Some have tall fences. Some always have wind coming in from left. Some days a team hits 6 line drives right at people. Some days the wind blows out 20 mph and a routine fly goes out.

TDA is a pitchers park. Everyone knew this. It wasn't a secret that shocked people except those who didn't pay attention when their team isn't in it since 2010. LSU expected to get lots of high fastballs. UCLA threw a ton have high fastball. LSU didn't adjust. The same can be said for some of the other teams.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:34 pm to
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You still haven't convinced me how this is boring or unfair.

It's boring to me for the reasons I stated in my last post. But that's how I felt long before the CWS last year. I don't believe it to be unfair at all.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85034 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:35 pm to
I know the studies. I am for the change. I am not for excuses.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:40 pm to
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I would just like to point out that 4 days before the Bama game a thread about baseball seams is the second longest thread on the Rant.


Well, isn't football season over?
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

It's boring to me for the reasons I stated in my last post. But that's how I felt long before the CWS last year. I don't believe it to be unfair at all.


I agree with you.. unfair may not be a good term..
it certainly favors pitching over hotting teams. --oops hitting

I also do not mind a low scoring game if defense makes it so..I just do not like a low scoring game solely based on pitching.

..to each his own

This post was edited on 11/5/13 at 7:45 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85034 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:45 pm to
You seem like good people. Discussing baseball is fun.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:47 pm to
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when balls can not carry, it favors team with pitching instead of hitting teams.



Dude, LSU had some pretty good pitching. We didn't get hits and made some errors. Everyone knew how the park was and what the ball was like. That's like saying it's not fair we lost to Ole Miss because they played better. Cmon!!
Posted by ShowMeWhatYouGotRaji
Member since Dec 2012
266 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:45 pm to
Actually, they did. Fall of 98 we used -5 bats because that's all we had. Even though rule change to -3 had been announced/in place. Spring ball starts, -3 bats came in from Louisville Slugger.
Posted by lsu2006
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Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

Actually, they did. Fall of 98 we used -5 bats because that's all we had. Even though rule change to -3 had been announced/in place. Spring ball starts, -3 bats came in from Louisville Slugger.

That's not the bat change I was referring to.
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