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Some of you LSU "fans" are incredible

Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:53 pm
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:53 pm
For 5 years all you've read on the rant is "Les is way to conservative on offense!!!! We will never win anything with such a vanilla gameplan!!!!! Les has got to go!!!!!!"

Since Saturday it's been "Why the frick was Les letting Mett throw the ball so much?!?!?!?! Why weren't we lining up and running the ball down their throats?!?!?!?! We will never win with such obvious playcalling!!!!!! Les has got to go!!!!!!!!!!"


So which is it people? Is he too conservative or too aggressive and crazy? At what point does the play calling from Saturday fall on Cam Cameron's shoulders? He has gotten 100% of the credit for the offensive turnaround, but 0% of the blame for the poor performance of the past 2 games.

A perfect example is the 3rd and 5 play after the muffed punt. LSU went 5 wide and people are blaming Les (shocker, I know), but I ask you this. Can you name ONE other time in the last 5 years that LSU has gone 5 wide on any 3rd down that was less than 10 yards?

There are several things that we can put on Miles (The obvious lack of motivation shown by the players is my main concern), but laying the blame solely on Miles is completely ridiculous.
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
16649 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:54 pm to
Did this need its own thread?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:54 pm to
tl;dr
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54028 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:55 pm to
People are livid pissed we lost to Ole Miss' second string and are looking for answers.

What do you expect on here after losing a game like that?
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:55 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 10:20 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Member since Nov 2010


Because you can't read the forum as a guest............
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:56 pm to
I would rather discuss his clock management. Maybe if all of us could agree on one thing...that he is terrible with managing time outs and the clock it would start the healing process.
Posted by Weebie
NOLA
Member since Dec 2012
3717 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

People are livid pissed we lost to Ole Miss' second string and are looking for answers.

What do you expect on here after losing a game like that?


This.

When Ole Miss takes their beef out and whips you with it, it's time to demand answers.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:57 pm to
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At what point does the play calling from Saturday fall on Cam Cameron's shoulders?


For what, he didn't throw those 3 int's. It wasn't the play calling that was bad, it was the performance that was shitty!!! Quit blaming the coaches for things beyond their control. Mett making 3 bad reads and throwing into coverage were on Mett not the coaches. Like Miles stated Mett should have thrown to the check down in all 3 cases, he didn't make the right read he threw to the wrong receiver that is Mett poor decision making, not the coaches for calling the play!!! They don't know what the defense is going to run prior to the play being called that is why you have check downs in every play!!!

This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 3:00 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:58 pm to
THIS IS THE RANT:

WE win it is because of our vastly superior talent and any idiot would have that because we are LSU.

WE lose and it is all the coaches fault.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

There are several things that we can put on Miles (The obvious lack of motivation shown by the players is my main concern), but laying the blame solely on Miles is completely ridiculous.


the $4 MM gets the blame...
he is in charge

He said at halftime, that we needed "to take what they give us" .. really..you have to wait until Halftime to correct it ..you are the Boss, you sit players down for less, TOO AFRAID TO SPEAK UP AGAINST COACHES ?

It is his job....end of story.

Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57243 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:59 pm to
tl;dr

This another pumper thread?
Posted by teeMike
In my mind, I'm already there.
Member since Feb 2007
7574 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:59 pm to
Good post. I agree. Hence the proverbial "Miles has lost control of (fill in the blank)".
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
5973 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 2:59 pm to
Maybe, just maybe, there is a difference between being way too conservative on offense, and throwing the ball up for grabs.

Maybe its that we're not able to coach a competent passing attack. To teach a QB to be able to read triple coverage and not throw into it. Or to take advantage of the opponent double covering two of our WR and opening up a ton of space for the other WR/TE/RB.

And FTR - throwing deep a few times a game has nothing to do with if we're running a conservative offense or not. You can throw it deep a few times and still be way too conservative. Not saying thats what we did the other night, I just hate that posters don't understand what being conservative on offense really means.

Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
5575 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

Some of you LSU "fans" are incredible

Why thank you. I think I'm more along the lines of awesome, but I'll take incredible.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

For what, he didn't throw those 3 int's. It wasn't the play calling that was bad, it was the performance that was shitty!!! Quit blaming the coaches for things beyond their control. Mett making 3 bad reads and throwing into coverage were on Mett not the coaches.


There is a strong hint as to why I called out Cameron and it was the word "playcalling," or does Mett call the plays too?
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Some of you LSU "fans" are incredible

thanks man, it's hard work but its worth it.

















seriously though, if you haven't figured out people love to bitch about everything i don't know what to tell you.

we could've won a NC this year and people would bitch that les has less than saban. it's just the way it works here.
Posted by tigerpawlsu
Member since May 2009
194 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 3:09 pm to
I don't know what posters on the Rant were like before Saban was hired. Did the catastrophe syndrome he referred to exist before he became coach?
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 3:17 pm to
The last 2 games have felt like the old les miles offense. No creativity or anything. The Florida game was a great gameplan obviously but when we seen what Mizzou put up on Florida D then is doesn't seem so smart
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