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Posted on 10/15/13 at 1:54 pm to LSUandAU
Webster classifies a judgement call as
It wasn't a subjective call, it was an obvious call
It is a blatant blown call. Quit hiding behind a word
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a subjective decision, ruling, or opinion
It wasn't a subjective call, it was an obvious call
It is a blatant blown call. Quit hiding behind a word
This post was edited on 10/15/13 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 10/15/13 at 2:09 pm to TigerBait1127
even an atlanta classmate of mine said we got robbed on that call. I can understand how at an angle it can be called "false start" because jahri seemed to react to defensive lineman, but if I remember correctly 2 of the refs were saying neutral zone infraction, but head said false start.
Posted on 10/15/13 at 2:10 pm to TigerJeff
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New England is the fricking Alabama of the NFL, Belichick would slit his own mother's throat to win and is an unabashed cheating dick
I'm not sure I could say anything that nice about them. tPOS wannabe, with Roger in his hoodie pocket
Posted on 10/15/13 at 2:49 pm to Icansee4miles
I have made a personal copy of this game to document the worst officiating I've ever seen.
Call it ridiculous if you want, but there are only 55 refs in the NFL..how many of those are given marching orders to overlook penalties on a team that the gambling syndicates want to win. I say all of them.
How many people bet the Saints...how much did the mob win when everyone on TV said the Saints would win. Millions are involved and payoffs were substantial.
This games was more obvious than most. There was a lot of Pat cheating to be overlooked. Whether the refs and others are bribed or not, the crime of poor officiating remains.
Call it ridiculous if you want, but there are only 55 refs in the NFL..how many of those are given marching orders to overlook penalties on a team that the gambling syndicates want to win. I say all of them.
How many people bet the Saints...how much did the mob win when everyone on TV said the Saints would win. Millions are involved and payoffs were substantial.
This games was more obvious than most. There was a lot of Pat cheating to be overlooked. Whether the refs and others are bribed or not, the crime of poor officiating remains.
Posted on 10/15/13 at 2:50 pm to BarbeTiger
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Are you a Saints fan or a Pats fan?
The order of my fandom:
1. Redskins (from VA)
2. Saints (lived in LA long time)
3. Texans
4. Teams that haven't ever won a Super Bowl
I rooted for the Pats in their 1985 Super Bowl and then the first 2 under Belichek. Since then, I have rooted against them. In Sunday's game, I wanted the Saints to win and after the pick, thought they had. I was then quite dissapointed, but blamed the loss on the Saints, the Pats defensive schemes, etc...not on the Refs. Cannot leave it up to the Refs.
Posted on 10/15/13 at 3:42 pm to TigerBait1127
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Webster classifies a judgement call as
quote:
a subjective decision, ruling, or opinion
It wasn't a subjective call, it was an obvious call
It is a blatant blown call. Quit hiding behind a word
You just made my case. This call was subjective (even the refs had different opinions about it per another poster), was a ruling made on the field and was an opinion (the refs had an opinion). These are judgement calls. If there was a laser on the tips of the nuetral zone and a player entered it and a buzzer went off, thet would be objective. The existence of refs made officiating subjective. It is not high tech and in cases such as this, they don't use replay.
In Tennis, whether a ball just catches a line or not is a judgement call...a subjective call, a ruling, an opinion. Whether or not a serve hits the net is often detected electronically, which makes it objective...not a judgement call. Here the refs were subjective...an objective system would have guaranteed the right call, absent detection equipment malfunction.
After watching your replay, I have admitted to being under the wrong impression about the play. It appears to have been encroachment. I remember a call against the Saints, where replay from behind the O showed a Saints player move...maybe a different play.
Here is a good link (The NFL Survival Guide for Regular Season Replacement Refs), with an excerpt below:
LINK
•Officiating is an imperfect science, complete with human-judgement errors and mistakes. That can't be stressed enough. Anyone is prone to a mistake.
•Some plays will be completely judgement calls for these officials, and others will have the safeguard of instant replay. That's important to remember. Some have said that one play or one call can change the course of an NFL team's season. Well, that's why coaches have a red flag in their pocket and the instant-replay booth takes a look at both scoring plays and turnovers. The number of game-changing plays that won't have a second pair of eyes looking at them will be small.
•Refs do not decide football games. Coaches preach this all the time, even when they are spouting off to the media about a poor call. Players ultimately hold the balance of games in their own hands.
Posted on 10/15/13 at 3:43 pm to LSUandAU
Holy shite dude. I'm going to post this again just because you haven't addressed it...
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Using that logic, every single call is a judgement call.
What this was is a blatant blown call. It wasn't a questionable hold or PI, it was a blatant missed call.
Posted on 10/15/13 at 4:44 pm to LNCHBOX
Most calls are judgement calls. Most people think the refs exercised poor judgement in making this call...based on the video, it appears to me the refs blew the call...but it is still up to their judgement. I'm sure there are other refs that would have called it against the Pats.
Posted on 10/15/13 at 6:08 pm to LSUandAU
There is no helping you. Congrats on successfully trolling for two days.
Posted on 10/15/13 at 6:14 pm to LNCHBOX
Do you think the refs exercised good judgment or bad judgment when "finalizing" that call after a brief conference? Clearly, you think they exercised bad judgment! It also appears to me they exercised bad judgment!
I admire your passion LUNCHBOX and will give you the last word!
I admire your passion LUNCHBOX and will give you the last word!
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