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re: This Tiger Stadium problem was years in the making (long)
Posted on 10/12/13 at 11:49 pm to TG
Posted on 10/12/13 at 11:49 pm to TG
quote:Mind your own business. You don't get to tell people what they can do with their tickets and their time.
You're either a fan or you're not. If you are a fan, the game is the focus of interest. Not leaving early to avoid traffic or some other lame excuse.
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Posted on 10/13/13 at 12:47 am to prplhze2000
As crazy as this sounds, someone from Baton Rouge needs to go to Penn St. and study what they do to get people in the seats. The whiteout game against Michigan today looked awesome on TV and didn't appear to have an empty seat in the house. The game was on TV, parking was probably horrendous, cell service may have sucked, the program may have lost scholarships and be on probation -- but those 104,000 seats were filled to capacity. As you look around that stadium on TV, you don't see ads and billboards in every corner. They have preserved the TRADITION of the institution and have made the stadium feel like it is a place where our grandparents once enjoyed a game. Fenway Park and Wrigley field are the same way.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 1:00 am to Lsupimp
quote:It's not just the scoreboard. Ads are all over the stadium. Literally everywhere. It's tacky beyond belief. Send any and all complaints about all of this to Alleva where it might do some good.
Can I also mention the crass scoreboard that is so over the top with advertising that I want to vomit every time I look up. LSU is starting to try my patience.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 1:03 am to BRAVEHEART
Ads make the ticket prices lower. Skip said so. ALL HAIL SKIP AND THE LOWER TICKET PRICES!
Enjoy these times. It can be more worser!
Enjoy these times. It can be more worser!
Posted on 10/13/13 at 1:03 am to VO7Tiger
quote:
As crazy as this sounds, someone from Baton Rouge needs to go to Penn St. and study what they do to get people in the seats. The whiteout game against Michigan today looked awesome on TV and didn't appear to have an empty seat in the house. The game was on TV, parking was probably horrendous, cell service may have sucked, the program may have lost scholarships and be on probation -- but those 104,000 seats were filled to capacity. As you look around that stadium on TV, you don't see ads and billboards in every corner. They have preserved the TRADITION of the institution and have made the stadium feel like it is a place where our grandparents once enjoyed a game. Fenway Park and Wrigley field are the same way.
Worth repeating.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 1:04 am to ballscaster
quote:There it is in only the second reply. "It's my money and my ticket and I'll leave whenever I damn well please" mentality.
If you want to buy a ticket and go to the game and leave early, buy a ticket and arrive and leave whenever you please.
Frick all you Cheesers.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 1:05 am to Jim Rockford
Penn State did look awesome tonight.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 2:00 am to prplhze2000
Op x 100000
I swear that was an embarssing display of fandom today. I have absolutely no idea how we rank as the most intimidating venue in college when we have a never filled, constantly emptying stadium. Had a lady yell at me today because I voiced my concern but I asked her if she had eyeballs and saw the 35% empty chairs that I saw.
I swear that was an embarssing display of fandom today. I have absolutely no idea how we rank as the most intimidating venue in college when we have a never filled, constantly emptying stadium. Had a lady yell at me today because I voiced my concern but I asked her if she had eyeballs and saw the 35% empty chairs that I saw.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 2:00 am to GeauxxxTigers23
If CBS has a problem with it quit putting games on at 2:30 in the afternoon on nice weather fall days.
My family has had season tickets since the mid 80's. We never go to day games. But what are you going to do? Give up your tickets that you a ton of money invested in and try to track down a ticket for the games you do want to attend?
No with the PSL and difficulty of getting new tickets if you ever let them go people have too much invested to do that. So people hold onto them forever after they are no longer attending every game, not rocket science.
We normally give ours away to people that do attend.
Now throw in the fact that EVERY game is on TV, with 14 camera angles and replays. I can sit home and eat like I'm tailgating with only people I invite over and watch the game in HD and the second the game ends I can watch another or do whatever on a Saturday afternoon. It all adds up.
My family has had season tickets since the mid 80's. We never go to day games. But what are you going to do? Give up your tickets that you a ton of money invested in and try to track down a ticket for the games you do want to attend?
No with the PSL and difficulty of getting new tickets if you ever let them go people have too much invested to do that. So people hold onto them forever after they are no longer attending every game, not rocket science.
We normally give ours away to people that do attend.
Now throw in the fact that EVERY game is on TV, with 14 camera angles and replays. I can sit home and eat like I'm tailgating with only people I invite over and watch the game in HD and the second the game ends I can watch another or do whatever on a Saturday afternoon. It all adds up.
This post was edited on 10/13/13 at 2:03 am
Posted on 10/13/13 at 2:05 am to BRAVEHEART
quote:It's none of your business what somebody else does with his ticket and his time. If you want people to start behaving the way you'd prefer, you probably should offer to pay for their ticket at least. Why not just do what you please and enjoy your experience at the game and not obsess over what other people do with their time?
There it is in only the second reply. "It's my money and my ticket and I'll leave whenever I damn well please" mentality. Frick all you Cheesers.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 2:11 am to kbol34
quote:
The NCAA should cap the prices of tickets across the board for lower and (separately cap) upper decks for every school.
I think LSU should handle tickets this way:
1. Season ticket holders' tickets should be the same price per game. $400? divided by however many games there are. I don't like the way LSU decides which games should cost $70 and which should cost less.
2. To counteract the above, Make the face value of non-season ticket holder tickets --- the away fans seats -- the higher LSU premium game price regardless of where they sit. That's what they do to us. Texas A&M charged $100 for crappy upper deck seats. Georgia, Bama, MSU and every other SEC team sticks us in crappy upper level seating.
Charging more for the away fan's ticket is where LSU should make up some of their money instead of charging to park for almost every square foot of LSU.
FYI, I have a handicap tag. I go to the Auburn game and there is a huge handicap lot 2 blocks from Jordan Hare. AND IT'S FREE TO PARK THERE.
LSU should take note.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 5:44 am to prplhze2000
quote:
This is what happens when you go totally corporate and ruin the game day experience.
I agree with you on that point. Corporations get blocks of tickets and hand them out to customers as gifts and those customers mostly aren't fans and they either don't go or leave after they get bored because they are not football fans either.
My case is that I have problems with knees and back so I sell my tickets and watch on TV. I probably would go if I can justify paying 500 bucks extra for parking that is unavailable up close.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 7:06 am to catnip
You could have written this same post and substituted Neyland for Tiger stadium and would have been factual. For Neyland I would have added frisked like a common criminal at the gates, no smoking anywhere, jumbotron, 13 inch seat, being told to sit down and shut up, harassed by paid event staff, 1/2 of student section moved to upper deck. Started during the Doug Dickey AD era and hasn't slowed since. Lowest season ticket sales in modern era and empty seats galore.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 7:07 am to BigSquirrel
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I think it has less to do with the things the OP mentioned, and everything to do with the new generation of Tiger Fans. This is a direct result of the Gimme Generation coming of age. Why go to a game when I can sit at home and watch it? Why stay and get stuck in traffic after for 2 hours when I can catch the 2nd half at home? These are questions I can't refute, and I can't answer for another fan. But it's not about cost or corporations, it's about comfort and it's about selfishness, and all the things that make the generation we live in great and terrible. frick you Miley Cyrus, frick you. Whoops, old man tangent there... fricking kids and their skateboards...
I love when a member if the worst generation in American history gets uppity and labels other generations as bad.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 7:12 am to VO7Tiger
quote:
As crazy as this sounds, someone from Baton Rouge needs to go to Penn St. and study what they do to get people in the seats. The whiteout game against Michigan today looked awesome on TV and didn't appear to have an empty seat in the house. The game was on TV, parking was probably horrendous, cell service may have sucked, the program may have lost scholarships and be on probation -- but those 104,000 seats were filled to capacity. As you look around that stadium on TV, you don't see ads and billboards in every corner. They have preserved the TRADITION of the institution and have made the stadium feel like it is a place where our grandparents once enjoyed a game. Fenway Park and Wrigley field are the same way.
Penn state's average attendance has been in a free fall over the last 6 years.
This is a national issue, not an LSU issue.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 7:14 am to prplhze2000
Night games! We want night games. Every other team in the sec prefers day games and for tv they get scheduled at night and we play at 2:30 on cbs. Alleva needs to grow a pair just once and stand up to them, contract or not.
All the other sec schools are doing the athletic fund thing and charging for parking and the corporate thing. It is not solely on that.
All the other sec schools are doing the athletic fund thing and charging for parking and the corporate thing. It is not solely on that.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 7:18 am to Antonio Moss
quote:
This is a national issue
It's an HDTV issue. Simple as that.
Right now it doesn't matter because people are still paying for their tickets even if they're not using them. It's when (if) people start taking the next step, and not buying tickets at all, that theAD is going to be in trouble.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 7:21 am to VO7Tiger
quote:
In July, athletic director Dave Joyner noted Penn State's attendance concerns. He framed these anxieties multiple times as part of a national problem.
"If you look at the curve that has been going on at Beaver Stadium over the last several years, it's been a steady line down, which it has been across the country," he said.
This national decline in college football attendance is true, but Penn State's drop has been especially precipitous.
Penn State averaged 96,730 fans per game in 2012, the fifth-highest total of any school in Division I-A. As promising as that number may be, it masks a problem. Whereas the average Division I-A university experienced an attendance decline of 1.2 percent in 2012 from the previous year, Penn State's average attendance declined 4.6 percent. Comparing last year's attendance to five years previous, 2007, Penn State was down 11.2 percent. The average Division I-A program was down 2.9 percent.
Another telling statistic was its percentage of fullness. With a capacity of 106,572, according to Penn State's athletic department, Beaver Stadium was 90.8 percent full last year on average. Of the top 25 football teams with the highest attendance last year, Penn State ranked 23rd in percentage of fullness. It was one of only seven of the top 25 highest-attended schools that had a percentage of fullness of under 95 percent (the average percentage of fullness for the top 25 attended programs was 97.8 percent), suggesting that its attendance problems are unusual for a powerful program.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 7:22 am to Antonio Moss
Are LSU fans really this egocentric? Do they really believe it only happens here? I mean seriously
quote:
In July, athletic director Dave Joyner noted Penn State's attendance concerns. He framed these anxieties multiple times as part of a national problem.
"If you look at the curve that has been going on at Beaver Stadium over the last several years, it's been a steady line down, which it has been across the country," he said.
This national decline in college football attendance is true, but Penn State's drop has been especially precipitous.
Penn State averaged 96,730 fans per game in 2012, the fifth-highest total of any school in Division I-A. As promising as that number may be, it masks a problem. Whereas the average Division I-A university experienced an attendance decline of 1.2 percent in 2012 from the previous year, Penn State's average attendance declined 4.6 percent. Comparing last year's attendance to five years previous, 2007, Penn State was down 11.2 percent. The average Division I-A program was down 2.9 percent.
Another telling statistic was its percentage of fullness. With a capacity of 106,572, according to Penn State's athletic department, Beaver Stadium was 90.8 percent full last year on average. Of the top 25 football teams with the highest attendance last year, Penn State ranked 23rd in percentage of fullness. It was one of only seven of the top 25 highest-attended schools that had a percentage of fullness of under 95 percent (the average percentage of fullness for the top 25 attended programs was 97.8 percent), suggesting that its attendance problems are unusual for a powerful program.
This post was edited on 10/13/13 at 7:23 am
Posted on 10/13/13 at 7:25 am to prplhze2000
I don't disagree with any of this. I will also add the gate searches were, at one time, supposed to look for booze and weapons. Now they're confiscating M & Ms, cold drinks, baby formula (why anybody would bring a baby to a game is beyond me), bottled water, and other snacks. It's become obvious it's more about gouging the spectator than the game. Not only this, but they've removed the "piss walls" from the SEZ, so you may end up standing in line for an entire quarter just to take a wizz.
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