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Pats plan to stop Sproles and Graham -NFL Live
Posted on 10/11/13 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 10/11/13 at 3:20 pm
Just watched a segment on this game. They showed video of the Pats putting two defenders at the line to hold up Gonzales much like punt return teams double up the gunner. In this case they aim to hold up and keep Graham within the 5 yards so its legal. This might be mostly a red zone defense to take JG out of the play.
To take Sproles out they showed video where the RDE for the Pats stopped his rush on the QB to take a shot at the RB coming out for the wheel route/pass in flat. . As soon as the RB regained his balance he was then knocked on his arse by the LBer assigned to the RB effectively eliminating the RB from the play.
I expect to see some of this Sunday. If NFL live can see it, I'm sure Payton already has a plan for it.
To take Sproles out they showed video where the RDE for the Pats stopped his rush on the QB to take a shot at the RB coming out for the wheel route/pass in flat. . As soon as the RB regained his balance he was then knocked on his arse by the LBer assigned to the RB effectively eliminating the RB from the play.
I expect to see some of this Sunday. If NFL live can see it, I'm sure Payton already has a plan for it.
This post was edited on 10/11/13 at 3:22 pm
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Posted on 10/11/13 at 3:21 pm to BobBoucher
Jets tried to do the same thing to Tony G and was called for two flags in the red zone.
Posted on 10/11/13 at 3:26 pm to WB504
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Jets tried to do the same thing to Tony G and was called for two flags in the red zone.
Must have done it beyond 5 yards?
But but but.... Mark Schlereth said it was legal!!
This post was edited on 10/11/13 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 10/11/13 at 3:27 pm to BobBoucher
So they're going to knock down/hold Sproles, Graham & PT on the same play?
Good luck with all that.
Good luck with all that.
Posted on 10/11/13 at 3:30 pm to liquid rabbit
So 2 guys jamming Jimmy, and 2 guys on Sproles? It's 9 on 7 after that, I like those odds.
Posted on 10/11/13 at 3:31 pm to liquid rabbit
Colston and Meach bout to go off
Posted on 10/11/13 at 3:34 pm to BobBoucher
yeah I'm sure everyone "plans" on stopping themPosted on 10/11/13 at 3:37 pm to BobBoucher
The problem that the Jets had was that they looked like offensive linemen against Tony G which necessitated the holding calls. I have seen this done to Jimmy G by the Dolphins and instead of blockinghim the simpley hit him with the corner and while he was off balance the LB nailed him sending him to the turf. It can be done a couple of times but will stop very quickly if they get called for a penalty or Brees makes them pay with another reciever, such as with the Dolphins
Posted on 10/11/13 at 3:41 pm to liquid rabbit
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So they're going to knock down/hold Sproles, Graham & PT on the same play? Good luck with all that.
That was exactly NFL Live's collective response: who will they leave uncovered to do that? ....and good luck!
This post was edited on 10/11/13 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 10/11/13 at 3:44 pm to BobBoucher
I have a feeling Colston gonna go off
Posted on 10/11/13 at 3:46 pm to BobBoucher
I'm sure if it were that easy we would have been stopped years ago 
CSP has a plan... We won't be stopped.
CSP has a plan... We won't be stopped.
Posted on 10/11/13 at 4:07 pm to Wild Thang
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I have a feeling Colston gonna go off
This
2 TD day for him, 135yds
Posted on 10/11/13 at 4:08 pm to WB504
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Jets tried to do the same thing to Tony G and was called for two flags in the red zone.
Good thing the pats arent the Jets then
it was very effective against the falcons. It wasnt an all the time thing, it was just mixed in really well situationally. Im sure Bill has something but it probably wont be a carbon copy of the Falcons gameplan. Off the top of my head i Wouldnt be suprised to see the Pats put in DE sub rushers inside at DT to pressure Brees where it matters (up the middle. Did this a lot last year with Cunningham and had some success. You take a hit with the running defense but our current DT situation isnt that much better off with Kelly and Wilfork out, and the running game certainly isnt yalls strong suit
Should be fun to see two of the best minds in football go head to head
Posted on 10/11/13 at 4:10 pm to liquid rabbit
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So they're going to knock down/hold Sproles, Graham & PT on the same play? Good luck with all that.
No, both of those strategies are used situationally and usually separate from each other.
Posted on 10/11/13 at 4:10 pm to BobBoucher
Stills will have 2 touchdowns this weekend.
Posted on 10/11/13 at 4:11 pm to BobBoucher
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But but but.... Mark Schlereth said it was legal!!
It is legal within 5 yards. They assumed the penalty was on the two guys jamming Gonzales, but the ref called it on a defender not on Gonzo.
Posted on 10/11/13 at 4:15 pm to BobBoucher
People act like Sproles and Graham are our only weapon. Colston is still here, Ben Watson has been steady, and Stills/Toon/Meach have shown flashes. Not to mention Brees distributing the ball, but I guess they want to try to force Brees into his sometimes bad mistakes
Posted on 10/11/13 at 4:52 pm to BobBoucher
If their defense moves out of position to bump grham strokes, Brees will torch them especially with moore
Posted on 10/11/13 at 5:02 pm to jeff5891
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moore
The guy that wont play this week?
Posted on 10/11/13 at 5:09 pm to BobBoucher
Everything mentioned here has been tried at different times by different teams and the end result is the same, 5-0. As others have said, too many weapons.
Lastly, Payton is smarter than Matt Patricia (for Christ sake, the guy has woman's name. How tough can he be!!!).
Lastly, Payton is smarter than Matt Patricia (for Christ sake, the guy has woman's name. How tough can he be!!!).
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