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Only a -4 point favorite... Take LSU big

Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:29 am
Posted by BornKjun
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2008
954 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:29 am
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Bruce Feldman ?@BFeldmanCBS
6 SEC teams would be favored over #OhioSt at neutral site: #Bama, #UGA, A&M, #UF, SC & #LSU, per Vegas bookmaker Ed Salmons


From the SEC Rant, but I don't have an account to post there.

We'd be favored over Ohio State but are only a -4 point favorie over TCU?

I just don't get the TCU love. They lost 2 OL from the start of this season on top of the guys the may have lost last season.
Posted by geauxranger54
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
1158 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:34 am to
-6 on sportsbook
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:38 am to
outside of 2011, LSU under Miles is not good against the spread
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:40 am to
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-6 on sportsbook


Got them at -4 yesterday and then -4 again this morning.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:40 am to
LSU has a marked advantage in the trenches, on both sides. Young on the D line but experience in the back 7 will allow those guys to pin their ears back, IMO. There are doubts with the offense but I don't think it will matter in THIS game.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5991 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:41 am to
Hopefully outside of 2011 and (at least) the first game of 2013!!
Posted by BornKjun
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2008
954 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:41 am to
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outside of 2011, LSU under Miles is not good against the spread



Not surprising. People think highly of LSU, but this time they are in a way picking TCU b/c of how low the spread is. TCU is ranked 20th but was 7-5 last year.

I'd take LSU every time- ALMOST- if they are expected to underperform.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:47 am to
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outside of 2011, LSU under Miles is not good against the spread


Has nothing to do with Saturday.

Even still, you can't just eliminate the results (2011) that don't coincide with what you want to believe.
This post was edited on 8/30/13 at 10:48 am
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
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Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:47 am to
That's why 2011 was so crazy, we were expected to beat everybody and did.

Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5991 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:49 am to
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That's why 2011 was so crazy, we were expected to beat everybody and did.

well........... at least once..
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:50 am to
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Has nothing to do with Saturday
that's exactly how losing betters think
the sample size is pretty big & 2011 is a relative blip (it's not like they beat the spread every game in 2011 either)
They could roll tomorrow, but I'm staying away.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:54 am to
TCU is something like 2-7 ATS for opponents in the top 15, over the last few years.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28363 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:59 am to
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They could roll tomorrow, but I'm staying away.


I generally trust LSU to win straight up. I rarely trust them ATS
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:59 am to
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TCU is something like 2-7 ATS for opponents in the top 15, over the last few years.
didn't know that...that is meaningful
<still staying away>
Posted by TigerFan2211
Texas
Member since Jan 2012
880 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 11:09 am to
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the sample size is pretty big & 2011 is a relative blip (it's not like they beat the spread every game in 2011 either)



They actually destroyed the spread in just about every game in 2011. Their margin of victory that yr other than the championship game was about 20-25 pts i would assume!
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 11:44 am to
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They actually destroyed the spread in just about every game in 2011. Their margin of victory that yr other than the championship game was about 20-25 pts i would assume!


And that's why he said "except for 2011" because those results don't coincide with what he's attempting to assert. But the truth in statistics is that no one can't just arbitrarily omit results that aren't congruent with what they want to believe. The results are what they are and if ATS numbers matter, then all of the ATS numbers matter, not just the ones that make a nice linear graph.

Or at the least, if he wants to eliminate the best year ATS results, eliminate the worst year ATS as well, then see what we have.

LSU could get curb stomped tomorrow for all I know. But right now no one knows exactly what kind of team we have right now. No one was predicting the kind of success we'd have in 2011 beforehand. Just have to wait and see.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 12:07 pm to
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They actually destroyed the spread in just about every game in 2011. Their margin of victory that yr other than the championship game was about 20-25 pts i would assume!
There were a couple games in 2011 that LSU didn't cover the spread although they certainly did in most (the margin of cover doesn't carry to the next game, unfortunately, and has no bearing).
My point is that under Miles (8 yrs) LSU has not performed well against the spread....2011 (1 yr) being a noticeable exception.
It can go either way tomorrow night, but be careful to say history doesn't matter....esp when you're emotionally invested. I hope you're right.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58132 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 12:10 pm to
I am far from a LSU homer, but I bet big on The tigers yesterday
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13575 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 12:22 pm to
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That's why 2011 was so crazy, we were expected to beat everybody and did.


2011 started very much like this one. "OH MY GOD, LSU LOST EVERYONE TO THE DRAFT! WHO'S GOING TO PLAY DEFENSE!? LOOK AT THAT SCHEDULE! OH MY GOD, THEY WILL BE LUCKY TO GO 8-4!" Then, the season started and we dominated everyone.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28363 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 12:22 pm to
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My point is that under Miles (8 yrs) LSU has not performed well against the spread....2011 (1 yr) being a noticeable exception.


That's an understatement. LSU has been horrible ATS with Miles. Worst in the SEC since 2005

LSU worst against the spread since 2005

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