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Only a -4 point favorite... Take LSU big
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:29 am
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:29 am
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Bruce Feldman ?@BFeldmanCBS
6 SEC teams would be favored over #OhioSt at neutral site: #Bama, #UGA, A&M, #UF, SC & #LSU, per Vegas bookmaker Ed Salmons
From the SEC Rant, but I don't have an account to post there.
We'd be favored over Ohio State but are only a -4 point favorie over TCU?
I just don't get the TCU love. They lost 2 OL from the start of this season on top of the guys the may have lost last season.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:38 am to BornKjun
outside of 2011, LSU under Miles is not good against the spread
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:40 am to geauxranger54
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-6 on sportsbook
Got them at -4 yesterday and then -4 again this morning.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:40 am to geauxranger54
LSU has a marked advantage in the trenches, on both sides. Young on the D line but experience in the back 7 will allow those guys to pin their ears back, IMO. There are doubts with the offense but I don't think it will matter in THIS game.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:41 am to Billy Ray Valentine
Hopefully outside of 2011 and (at least) the first game of 2013!!
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:41 am to Billy Ray Valentine
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outside of 2011, LSU under Miles is not good against the spread
Not surprising. People think highly of LSU, but this time they are in a way picking TCU b/c of how low the spread is. TCU is ranked 20th but was 7-5 last year.
I'd take LSU every time- ALMOST- if they are expected to underperform.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:47 am to Billy Ray Valentine
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outside of 2011, LSU under Miles is not good against the spread
Has nothing to do with Saturday.
Even still, you can't just eliminate the results (2011) that don't coincide with what you want to believe.
This post was edited on 8/30/13 at 10:48 am
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:47 am to BornKjun
That's why 2011 was so crazy, we were expected to beat everybody and did.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:49 am to goldenbadger08
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That's why 2011 was so crazy, we were expected to beat everybody and did.
well........... at least once..
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:50 am to Goldrush25
quote:that's exactly how losing betters think
Has nothing to do with Saturday
the sample size is pretty big & 2011 is a relative blip (it's not like they beat the spread every game in 2011 either)
They could roll tomorrow, but I'm staying away.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:54 am to Billy Ray Valentine
TCU is something like 2-7 ATS for opponents in the top 15, over the last few years.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:59 am to Billy Ray Valentine
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They could roll tomorrow, but I'm staying away.
I generally trust LSU to win straight up. I rarely trust them ATS
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:59 am to CptBengal
quote:didn't know that...that is meaningful
TCU is something like 2-7 ATS for opponents in the top 15, over the last few years.
<still staying away>
Posted on 8/30/13 at 11:09 am to Billy Ray Valentine
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the sample size is pretty big & 2011 is a relative blip (it's not like they beat the spread every game in 2011 either)
They actually destroyed the spread in just about every game in 2011. Their margin of victory that yr other than the championship game was about 20-25 pts i would assume!
Posted on 8/30/13 at 11:44 am to TigerFan2211
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They actually destroyed the spread in just about every game in 2011. Their margin of victory that yr other than the championship game was about 20-25 pts i would assume!
And that's why he said "except for 2011" because those results don't coincide with what he's attempting to assert. But the truth in statistics is that no one can't just arbitrarily omit results that aren't congruent with what they want to believe. The results are what they are and if ATS numbers matter, then all of the ATS numbers matter, not just the ones that make a nice linear graph.
Or at the least, if he wants to eliminate the best year ATS results, eliminate the worst year ATS as well, then see what we have.
LSU could get curb stomped tomorrow for all I know. But right now no one knows exactly what kind of team we have right now. No one was predicting the kind of success we'd have in 2011 beforehand. Just have to wait and see.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 12:07 pm to TigerFan2211
quote:There were a couple games in 2011 that LSU didn't cover the spread although they certainly did in most (the margin of cover doesn't carry to the next game, unfortunately, and has no bearing).
They actually destroyed the spread in just about every game in 2011. Their margin of victory that yr other than the championship game was about 20-25 pts i would assume!
My point is that under Miles (8 yrs) LSU has not performed well against the spread....2011 (1 yr) being a noticeable exception.
It can go either way tomorrow night, but be careful to say history doesn't matter....esp when you're emotionally invested. I hope you're right.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 12:10 pm to BornKjun
I am far from a LSU homer, but I bet big on The tigers yesterday
Posted on 8/30/13 at 12:22 pm to goldenbadger08
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That's why 2011 was so crazy, we were expected to beat everybody and did.
2011 started very much like this one. "OH MY GOD, LSU LOST EVERYONE TO THE DRAFT! WHO'S GOING TO PLAY DEFENSE!? LOOK AT THAT SCHEDULE! OH MY GOD, THEY WILL BE LUCKY TO GO 8-4!" Then, the season started and we dominated everyone.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 12:22 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
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My point is that under Miles (8 yrs) LSU has not performed well against the spread....2011 (1 yr) being a noticeable exception.
That's an understatement. LSU has been horrible ATS with Miles. Worst in the SEC since 2005
LSU worst against the spread since 2005
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