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Why do you think CSP felt Will Smith would be a competent NFL linebacker?

Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:31 pm
Posted by hugme49
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2013
157 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:31 pm
Not to beat a deadhorse...because this thread is about our Defense as a whole and not just Smith, but I think its obvious that our outside backers will be a weak spot in coverage this season.

I know enough about a 34 to know that your outside guys do not rush every down. And as we saw in the first preseason game...we were getting torched in the flats by the Chiefs starters. What do you think ATL will plan to do in week 1? Throw to Jackson and Rogers in the flats.

I just heard Detellier (sp?) On epsn radio discussing this very topic and it got me thunking: Will CSP move Will Smith around and even others if they struggle or just stick it out this season and have the players learn by trial and error try to add depth next offseason?

Thoughts on our defense guys? And here's to a good season
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:36 pm to
It is my belief that CSP, out of deference for the veteran player, is giving Will Smith the best possible opportunity to succeed.
That's why he's starting with the ones.

It is my hope that CSP is open to removing him if he continues to underperform.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10941 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:36 pm to

Two words. Closing Speed.


Posted by hugme49
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2013
157 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:37 pm to
Pretty much how I feel about it too
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64384 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:37 pm to
I think there are about six million reasons!
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6336 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:37 pm to
He'll probably stay on the roster due to the cap figure that we'd lose anyway. I can't fault him for trying something unique with what we have, but I had this pegged from the start. It was a longshot.

I am most disappointed with them getting Vacarro when a perfectly fine OLB was on the draft board, but hey, both our secondary and linebackers were in pretty bad shape. My argument was the fact of importance of the OLB position in a 3-4. I truly hope Martez Wilson will be available for that game - if not we could have a really bad day.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61520 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Why do you think CSP felt Will Smith would be a competent NFL linebacker?


IIRC, didn't Smith play some 3-4 OLB in college? I think the main reason is money though, it costs almost as much to cut him as to keep him, so you give him every chance to succeed as a starter before asking him to swallow his pride and be a backup.

quote:

Will CSP move Will Smith around and even others if they struggle or just stick it out this season and have the players learn by trial and error try to add depth next offseason?


One of the marks of this regime has been the best player plays regardless of contract and draft position. Although smart/coachable/experienced seems to win out when the guy behind him isn't significantly better, see Scott Shanle.

Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
Member since Jan 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 5:07 pm to
He is giving him a shot to make the team and to be a contributing factor. He has respect for him many in our fan base.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77623 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 5:14 pm to
Fresh Prince should be a long snapper.
Posted by GeauxCraigrz
Southern Louisiana
Member since Apr 2013
480 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 5:20 pm to
I understand letting a veteran compete but instead of asking him to loose alil weight and olb in the 3-4, why not let him add a couple pounds and play 3-4 end? I thought he holds up against the run well enough to hold the end. He should be part of the d line rotation not part of the linebacker group.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30112 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 5:28 pm to
its all about trying to keep a longtime veteran and defensive leader on the team. And we'd benefit virtually nothing from cutting him. The issue that everyone found prior to the draft was we were weak at OLB because no one was proven there and we were also equally if not worse off at the time at safety. I thought that we will probably cut harper next year and malcolm jenkins isn't that great so we'd be down 2 starters at safety so why not shore up on a legit prospect at safety in vaccaro. That way next year, if vaccaro pans out, we are good at on one safety and can grab a good OLB just incase our main 3 didn't pan out.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
21785 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

understand letting a veteran compete but instead of asking him to loose alil weight and olb in the 3-4, why not let him add a couple pounds and play 3-4 end? I thought he holds up against the run well enough to hold the end. He should be part of the d line rotation not part of the linebacker group. 



This.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32969 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

One of the marks of this regime has been the best player plays regardless of contract and draft position.



That's true on offense, not on defense.

Sed Ellis over A. Hicks last year
Shanle over Dunbar and anyone else
Harper and Jenkins over IAQ last year
PRob over Corey White and Mack

Again, most of those decisions were on Spags who is a highly functioning retard as far as I'm concerned.



I still think Will Smith's best chance at competing for a spot would have been a move to offensive tackle.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 6:12 pm to
It's all part of the smoke screen for unleashing the best defense in the league come early September.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278499 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 7:06 pm to
He needs to be at DE. Perfect size
Posted by Da #1 Stunna
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Member since Oct 2012
1083 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 9:29 pm to
I get the salary cap ramifications regarding Will Smith. Simply put, he is a fish out of water at the OLB position. He is a MAJOR LIABILITY in pass coverage, as the Chiefs clearly exposed. No amount of weight loss is going to make him fast enough to function at a high level at that position. He is slower than Shanle. This experiment is doomed to fail. Again, I get why they are trying to do it salary cap wise, but Will Smith really cannot play anymore. Sad but true.
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