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What would a Hurry Up offense with power football at its base look like?
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:34 pm
WARNING: Possibly TL;DR
Usually a hurry up offense is some form of spread(read-option, air raid) that tires a defense out by spreading it out and making constant quick strikes till it reaches the EZ. Thing about it is that an athletic defense can stop this, or at least contain it enough to become ineffective after a while(see LSU vs TAMU, WVU, Oregon).
With a power running game, you cripple an opponent with body blows until it gives up and submits to your will. Since we have Miles and Cam, the speed of this will be on high or low depending on the situation in game.
With a good offensive line, great backs and a legit threat to pass deep, a power/no huddle offense is like a freight train with no brakes on an endless track. Couple it with a big, athletic, talented and deep defense, you won't have to worry about tiring out that side of the ball. Also as I said above, Miles is smart enough to slow it down too.
Will this be the equivalent of repeatedly getting hit in the face with a sledgehammer? Not only will we run you over, but will do it in rapid succession, and then throw bombs over the top of your head.
I like the sound of that, can't wait to see how it looks.
Usually a hurry up offense is some form of spread(read-option, air raid) that tires a defense out by spreading it out and making constant quick strikes till it reaches the EZ. Thing about it is that an athletic defense can stop this, or at least contain it enough to become ineffective after a while(see LSU vs TAMU, WVU, Oregon).
With a power running game, you cripple an opponent with body blows until it gives up and submits to your will. Since we have Miles and Cam, the speed of this will be on high or low depending on the situation in game.
With a good offensive line, great backs and a legit threat to pass deep, a power/no huddle offense is like a freight train with no brakes on an endless track. Couple it with a big, athletic, talented and deep defense, you won't have to worry about tiring out that side of the ball. Also as I said above, Miles is smart enough to slow it down too.
Will this be the equivalent of repeatedly getting hit in the face with a sledgehammer? Not only will we run you over, but will do it in rapid succession, and then throw bombs over the top of your head.
I like the sound of that, can't wait to see how it looks.
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Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:36 pm to Datbayoubengal
Only good if you keep moving the chains, otherwise, the other team gets lots of chances to wear your D down...You know, like LSU the last few years.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:39 pm to Datbayoubengal
Im curious to see how it works being that we love to sub in different backs for different situations, and if im not mistaking it may be kinda hard to sub backs and still keep up the tempo..so maybe itll be a string of plays at a time??
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:39 pm to CamdenTiger
Exactly, good in theory, but only if u get first downs. U get stuffed for a quarter or two and that offense won't score quick enough to catch up. Balance is key!
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:40 pm to Datbayoubengal
You know how winded a rb would be in a hurry up, power offense?
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:45 pm to sunnydaze
I think maybe you go to it after youve got some momentum going, like maybe a few first downs and a favorable matchup on the field and you dont want to see defensive substitutions.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 4:07 pm to sunnydaze
quote:
You know how winded a rb would be in a hurry up, power offense?
LSU has 5 RB's (or 6?) to use, including copeland...
could be interesting
Posted on 8/12/13 at 4:07 pm to Datbayoubengal
We're going to find out. I think this is exactly what we move towards.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 4:11 pm to Datbayoubengal
This is not going to be the offense that we are used to seeing. Yes, they will run the ball a lot between the tackles. But, they will pass more to the backs and tight ends and wide receivers from the same formation. We have a real offensive coordinator guys. Quick to the line of scrimmage and the defense will not be able to load the box. If they do, they will check to a pass.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 5:17 pm to sunnydaze
quote:
You know how winded a rb would be in a hurry up, power offense?
I'm always seeing quotes on how the players love the fast tempo. Also we'll have 4 backs plus Copeland and Brazil, tiring them out will not be a problem.
And to the sure if it works crowd. If Cameron is to be believed, we can put up points consistently and in bunches. Think about it, we speed it up the first half to the tune of 28 points then grind them down when they are tired and weary in the second half and add bombs for good measure. Execution is key, unpredictability is key.
This is all in theory obviously, but if it works, do you know how demoralizing it would be to be pounded into submission by halftime. If executed correctly, we will be unstoppable.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 5:38 pm to Datbayoubengal
IMO it would wear down your RB and Oline too fast. I played Oline for belle Chasse a couple years ago and we ran a true hurry up spread, I couldn't imagine pulling and chasing linebackers around every play in a hurry up power offense. The reason spread is more effective in a fast pace offense is that the Oline and RB have a chance to catch there breath during pass protection and the receivers get a chance to catch their breath during running plays while the defense has to go all out on both running and passing plays. But if the offense is majority running the ball it puts everyone but the receivers on the same level
Posted on 8/12/13 at 5:44 pm to Jakeyura
Maybe that's why they are harping on conditioning for vadal. I think we're gonna slam some power I from the hunh
Posted on 8/12/13 at 5:50 pm to Jakeyura
Posted on 8/12/13 at 5:51 pm to TheDoc
13 available O-linemen
Posted on 8/12/13 at 6:28 pm to Datbayoubengal
It works if you can throw. I have no problem with Miles smash mouth philosophy, but it can't be predictable and repetitious.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 6:47 pm to Datbayoubengal
Refer to Auburn 2010 for your answers.
Malzahn's offense with Cam Newton was a downhill, pulling guards, power rushing offense. If they made a first down, they usually went hurry up for the rest of that drive (but only after making the first first down, to give their D a rest if they didn't make the first one).
Their power run offense didn't look like ours does, but that's what it was.
Malzahn's offense with Cam Newton was a downhill, pulling guards, power rushing offense. If they made a first down, they usually went hurry up for the rest of that drive (but only after making the first first down, to give their D a rest if they didn't make the first one).
Their power run offense didn't look like ours does, but that's what it was.
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 8/12/13 at 7:08 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Posted on 8/12/13 at 7:11 pm to Datbayoubengal
The patriots ran a good bit of 2 TE power formations hurry up last year.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 7:18 pm to Datbayoubengal
Our OL can change tempo, but to have those big nasties running plays like Oregon...not a good thing.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 7:26 pm to SteveLSU35
Why? Zone read with Jennings in a package with Copeland and hill.
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