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MichiganTiger
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How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


...altercation and not be guilty of manslaughter??? I don't pretend to know what Zimmerman was thinking that night. I think 2nd degree murder is a very high bar in this situation without a living witness other than the shooter.

But, if someone drives aggressively during a road rage incident and kills someone...they typically get manslaughter...even when both participants are being reckless. The guy brought a gun to a fist fight...Florida is effed up beyond all reason.

Zimmerman was clearly stalking the kid. That's obvious based on the 911 tape. I don't care if the kid threw the first punch. I don't care if the kid was getting the better of Zimmerman. It's asinine that there are NO consequences to raising the bar to the point of shooting and killing someone in those circumstances. It's completely effed up.







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TH03
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Zimmerman was clearly stalking the kid. That's obvious based on the 911 tape.


link?






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JEAUXBLEAUX
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


don't bring logic into this





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Quentin Compson
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


For god's sake, is a new thread really necessary for this topic?





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Scruffy
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


Doesn't matter.

He was acquitted.

Why do you care?






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LSURussian
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HempHead
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


quote:

don't bring logic into this


The prosecution obviously didn't, or they would have charged him with manslaughter.






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CptBengal
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


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Zimmerman was clearly stalking the kid. That's obvious based on the 911 tape. I don't care if the kid threw the first punch. I don't care if the kid was getting the better of Zimmerman.


So you dont care about facts or the law.

Good to know Michigan people are as stupid as advertised.






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Drew Orleans
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That's the problem. There's no telling exactly how the fight started and how serious TM was about killing GZ. The problem is that when and if something like this happens, how can you justify giving GZ jail time without knowing.





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HonoraryCoonass
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


When it is self-defense.





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Tayday
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


Hmm ok, well let's say you were getting your absolute arse beat and feared for your life. You're a few head bangs from potentially death and have a gun on your hip, do you pull it out?

That's what I thought.






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oldcharlie8
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


zimmerman had two choices:

get beat til you die

or

prevent trayvon from getting your gun and shoot first


which one would you choose?






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JEAUXBLEAUX
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


The only 100% agreed upon was that he was found not guilty and that is the system we all live by. period.





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los angeles tiger
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


Lou Dobbs had listed the various ways people were murdered in 2011. Over 700 were murdered with the use of bodyparts (hands, feet, knees). Only a little over 200 were killed with assault weapons.





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Zed
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Trayvon had forty something seconds to stop beating Zimmerman's arse and he would be alive. If Trayvon had settled for 20 or 30 seconds beating a man screaming for help on the ground, he'd be alive. He'd be in jail for assault, but he'd be alive.





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AlaTiger
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


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I don't care if the kid threw the first punch. I don't care if the kid was getting the better of Zimmerman. It's asinine that there are NO consequences to raising the bar to the point of shooting and killing someone in those circumstances. It's completely effed up.


Is it possible to kill someone with your bare hands? Is it possible to crack someone's skull and give them brain damage when you are banging their head into the concrete?

Just answer yes or no.







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MSMHater
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


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When it is self-defense.


Pretty much the only right answer






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AintBigButItsPretty
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


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MichiganTiger

Let's assume I'm more physically fit than you, on top of you, and I'm banging your head into the cement. You have a gun. What would you do to make sure you don't lose consciousnesses, get severely injured, die, or get shot by your own gun?

Also since we are obviously playing in inference game, does someone following you give you permission to beat their head into the ground?

Finally learn the difference between legal and moral consequences.






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TigerDeacon
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


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How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...
...altercation and not be guilty of manslaughter???


So, if someone starts to beat you up you should only be allowed to defend yourself with your hands?

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I don't pretend to know what Zimmerman was thinking that night


But you pretend to know everything else.







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Scruffy
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re: How can someone pull out a gun and shot an unarmed person in a hand to hand...


Pretty sure this guy is trolling since he hasn't responded to a single post yet.





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