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For those that keep asking what you do with Rivers if you draft a PG
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:26 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:26 am
If you watched last night's game, you can never have enough shot creators. Miami took away most of the open shots and the only people scoring were guys like Duncan who can win 1 on 1 match ups.
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:31 am to TigerinATL
Rivers is a combo guard. He may not be a big threat from 3 right now, but he could certainly give you solid minutes anywhere in the backcourt if and when he starts to gain confidence. I really want to see if the time without his right hand has improved his left.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 7:33 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:34 am to TigerinATL
A McCollum, Rivers, Anderson, J Smith plus whoever 2nd unit would be tits.
Or swap McCollum and GV as the starting PG.
Or swap McCollum and GV as the starting PG.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:54 am to TigerinATL
Offensively, the big things are creators and floor spacers in a coherent system. Miami and SAS have individual talent, but it only peaks with movement and adherence to their system.
Monty has shown flashes of a sound system and the Pels need more talent. Jury is still very much out on how effective Rivers, Vasquez, and, to some degree, even Gordon can be off ball. And they need more shooting- how many guys got the 3 designation on the Z Graph? Anderson, Vasquez, Roberts? Only one of those guys commanded any respect from defenses
Monty has shown flashes of a sound system and the Pels need more talent. Jury is still very much out on how effective Rivers, Vasquez, and, to some degree, even Gordon can be off ball. And they need more shooting- how many guys got the 3 designation on the Z Graph? Anderson, Vasquez, Roberts? Only one of those guys commanded any respect from defenses
Posted on 6/19/13 at 9:02 am to Toula
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A McCollum, Rivers, Anderson, J Smith plus whoever 2nd unit would be tits.
Or swap McCollum and GV as the starting PG.
That would definitely be a pretty solid 2nd unit, especially if Miller steps up.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 9:12 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 9:26 am to TigerinATL
Rivers= life's next gary neal.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 9:30 am to mm2316
I'm a fan of Rivers and hope we don't give up on him too quickly.
Also, I liked the little I saw from Miller last year. I was kind of hoping he would get a little more PT. I think he can be a solid bench guy going forward.
Also, I liked the little I saw from Miller last year. I was kind of hoping he would get a little more PT. I think he can be a solid bench guy going forward.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:34 am to corndeaux
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And they need more shooting- how many guys got the 3 designation on the Z Graph? Anderson, Vasquez, Roberts? Only one of those guys commanded any respect from defenses
The sample size was small but Miller looks like a good 3 point shooter, 22/56 for 39%. Mason will need to be replaced long term (Roberts?).
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:23 pm to TigerinATL
Miller has promise as D and 3 guy off the bench. Hope he continues to improve.
Im not sure why they arent as high on McCollum as they seem to be on Burke. Appears that he could work next to any of the backcourt guys with his size and shooting ability.
Im not sure why they arent as high on McCollum as they seem to be on Burke. Appears that he could work next to any of the backcourt guys with his size and shooting ability.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:35 pm to corndeaux
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Im not sure why they arent as high on McCollum as they seem to be on Burke.
Yea its interesting because Ive watched the way the Spurs have played and this is what my untrained eyes have seen: you can never have enough good/efficient shooters but those guys need to get open
With that being said the Spurs are taking good shots due to Tony Parker making great passes, and drawing the defense
My question is (once again im not an expert) is Burke or Rivers that guy that can get his teammates open for good shots? Or is McCollum more valuable as a shooter for us?
I don't know maybe thats the obvious question
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:15 pm to Jester
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Rivers is a combo guard.
yes
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He may not be a big threat from 3 right now
combo guards, or scoring guards as i cal them, are not 3pt beaters. the do work by getting to the paint/rim. austin already has that. fact!
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but he could certainly give you solid minutes anywhere in the backcourt if and when he starts to gain confidence.
yes. cant wait to see how he does with passing the rock from the paint.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:44 pm to DeionDeion
What's interesting with the Spurs is that they have so many guys who can create. Per 36, they had 9 guys with 3 or more APG. Parker and Ginobili were tops at 8 and 7 per game, but Duncan, Neal, and Diaw were the other guys with over 3 that are playing big minutes. Thats 5 of their top 8.
For comparison, the Hornets only had 5 guys (Vasquez, Roberts, Sloan, Gordon, Rivers) over 3apg per 36. Probably only 3 of their top 8 and no frontcourt players.
Just my .02¢, but I see Burke in the CP, one man show mold. McCollum seems like more of a scoring guard first, creator second.
I guess it comes down to their philosophy on offense. Do they want a CP3 type, one man creator or multiple, (perhaps individually less skilled) creators.
For comparison, the Hornets only had 5 guys (Vasquez, Roberts, Sloan, Gordon, Rivers) over 3apg per 36. Probably only 3 of their top 8 and no frontcourt players.
Just my .02¢, but I see Burke in the CP, one man show mold. McCollum seems like more of a scoring guard first, creator second.
I guess it comes down to their philosophy on offense. Do they want a CP3 type, one man creator or multiple, (perhaps individually less skilled) creators.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 1:23 am to TigerinATL
Draft BPA. If Rivers decides to turn it on, we have the best 6th man in the league. We can get better at every position but PF.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:41 pm to TigerinATL
Am I the only one who thinks Rivers could be a good 2? He has always shown an ability to get to the cup, he started finishing before he got hurt, and his 3 shot was coming along. With practice, his FT% can drastically improve and he could easily be an 18+ppg guy.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:45 pm to touchdownjeebus
His shot will likely be inconsistent until he reworks his form, which is the one thing he seems opposed to.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:47 pm to touchdownjeebus
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he could easily be an 18+ppg guy.
That's kinda high hopes for Rivers. At this point, I'd be happy with him being a solid bench player with 10ppg.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 6:38 pm to mm2316
If he just hit 70% from the line he would have been around 16ppg.
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