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Negotiating pay. Got a offer but it's kind of low
Posted on 6/11/13 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 6/11/13 at 3:49 pm
So I got a offer extended to me for another pipe, fittings, valves distributor, but the training is really low. 45 hrs/ wk and the pay is hourly. Hr said it equals out to about 37500 annually. I currently make 43k plus commission. My commission structure is really low so it doesn't amount to much. They said once training is over and I produce, they will match 43k plus quarterly bonuses(5-8k a year).
I would have to do training for 6 months in Dallas. They are offering 1000 to relocate. I would have to move from Nola to Dallas and then in 6 months to Houston.
I feel that I can do well with the company after training, but 37500 is really low for Texas. They said that they can't really change the pay bc of they want it to be even across the board for candidates. But don't write them off yet. Which I don't even know what that means. I guess I could take a step back to move forward.
What would the money board do? I need a slightly higher pay in training. How do I negotiate? I was looking for a bit more in the salary after training as well.
Sorry tl;dr : got a job offer, pay is low, what do I do?
I would have to do training for 6 months in Dallas. They are offering 1000 to relocate. I would have to move from Nola to Dallas and then in 6 months to Houston.
I feel that I can do well with the company after training, but 37500 is really low for Texas. They said that they can't really change the pay bc of they want it to be even across the board for candidates. But don't write them off yet. Which I don't even know what that means. I guess I could take a step back to move forward.
What would the money board do? I need a slightly higher pay in training. How do I negotiate? I was looking for a bit more in the salary after training as well.
Sorry tl;dr : got a job offer, pay is low, what do I do?
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Posted on 6/11/13 at 3:57 pm to 337tigergirl
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orry tl;dr : got a job offer, pay is low, what do I do?
Negotiate salary, If they say they won't. Either take the job or don't take the job. If you are negotiating you have to be prepared to lose the job. If you don't want to lose the job then take it.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 3:59 pm to 337tigergirl
gotta start somewhere, may be just what it is.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:02 pm to 337tigergirl
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I would have to do training for 6 months in Dallas. They are offering 1000 to relocate. I would have to move from Nola to Dallas and then in 6 months to Houston.
So they are paying $1000 for you to relocate to Dallas? Anything to go from Dallas to Houston?
37,500 isn't terrible (keep in mind I have no idea what the position is).
So you are having to move cities to get lower pay for a year and then in a year you will be matching your current pay and maybe making 5-8k more?
I would stay at current job or look for another. Doesn't seem worth it unless the other company is significantly better or more room for growth.
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:05 pm to 337tigergirl
Marry me and spend my money all day.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:09 pm to 337tigergirl
FWIW No state income tax in Texas.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:15 pm to 337tigergirl
You gonna be the lowest paid Asian on the face of the earth. Damn
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:24 pm to hiltacular
Yea I'm trying to move to Houston but I live in Nola right now and it's hard to interview. Thinking of just moving to Houston and then just finding a job. Another 1000 to move to Houston from Dallas. The hourly training pay is only for 6 months. It's a bigger company with a tad bit more opportunities than where I'm at right now. I do inside sales but want to move to outside sales. They said in 2 years they will move me outside.
Bama- where's my ring?
Broke- yes I'm literally the brokest Asian. Time to get married lol
Bama- where's my ring?
Broke- yes I'm literally the brokest Asian. Time to get married lol
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:27 pm to 337tigergirl
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yes I'm literally the brokest Asian. Time to get married lol
you wanna fit my pipe?
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:36 pm to 337tigergirl
No ring. Just keep my belly full and my balls empty for a monthly allowance of $500 plus room and board.
OK I'm done joking. Good luck friend.
OK I'm done joking. Good luck friend.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 7:34 pm to 337tigergirl
Base + Bonus sounds a lot better than Base + Commission to me, especially if your base is going to be the same in 6 months (make sure you get that in the offer letter).
Are you single or do you have family to move? $1K sounds low for relo if you have to move twice. You'll also have to find a rental that will put you in a 6 mo lease, so that will cost you more most likely.
Are you single or do you have family to move? $1K sounds low for relo if you have to move twice. You'll also have to find a rental that will put you in a 6 mo lease, so that will cost you more most likely.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 7:43 pm to 337tigergirl
Legit question. That's a tough one. I'm not sure what I would do. It would probably be based on room for growth in the company since you're young.
Also, at your current job, could you move up? How often you get raises? When was your last raise? Etc.
Also, at your current job, could you move up? How often you get raises? When was your last raise? Etc.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 7:54 pm to 337tigergirl
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Sorry tl;dr : got a job offer, pay is low, what do I do?
Negotiate your pay as if you don't want or need the job.
Never give a number back. Use a phrase such as "That's lower than I had expected" and then remain quiet. Let them speak. It puts the pressure on the decision maker.
If asked again by potential employer, "what are you looking to make?" simply reply "more than what you are offering." Being vague in negotiations help.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 8:41 pm to LSUTigers00884
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Also, at your current job, could you move up? How often you get raises? When was your last raise? Etc.
Honestly the $ differential here isn't enough where that should be driving your decision. Do you like the people you work with? How bad do you want to move to Houston?
And does anyone else think the lowball salary during 'training' is a bad sign with the new company, or is that normal?
Posted on 6/11/13 at 8:43 pm to Will Cover
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"more than what you are offering."
They might say then "how much more, tell us a number."
Posted on 6/11/13 at 8:50 pm to LSUTigers00884
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Are you single or do you have family to move? $1K sounds low for relo if you have to move twice. You'll also have to find a rental that will put you in a 6 mo lease, so that will cost you more most likely
Zereau- yea that's what i'm worried about. every apartment in Dallas seems like it is 1000+ and I bet it's higher since I can only sign a 6 months lease.
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Legit question. That's a tough one. I'm not sure what I would do. It would probably be based on room for growth in the company since you're young. Also, at your current job, could you move up? How often you get raises? When was your last raise? Etc.
I want to do outside sales. They want me to commit to 2 years of inside sales, which I honestly do not like much at all. I was hoping of doing inside for a year to learn everything but they want 2 years. So that's 6 months of training and then another 2 years of inside sales. 2-1/2 years is a long time.
My current job has no room to grow. Family owned company where the son is the president and his best friend is sales manager. I got 2 (lowballed) raises in 6 months but that is about it. I won't get anything else for a long time. My last raise was in October and I was promised commission but at the bonus check meeting, they were "restructuring commission at the time." basically bullshite but the commission is so damn low that I stopped fighting for it. 1% of gross profit margin. $20,000 in profit = $200. lol
Posted on 6/11/13 at 8:51 pm to wegotdatwood
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They might say then "how much more, tell us a number."
It all depends on how well one can deliver. Although they've already given a number, one could simply say after letting them know it's not a number that they could agree to, "what new number did you have in mind?" Again, allow them to throw out a number.
If really pressed, speak in ranges. I was expecting between $50 and $55K, but be able to have two or three bullet points as to why you demand this salary.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 8:53 pm to 337tigergirl
Tough decision. Best of luck!
Posted on 6/11/13 at 8:54 pm to Will Cover
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Honestly the $ differential here isn't enough where that should be driving your decision. Do you like the people you work with? How bad do you want to move to Houston?
I agree with the $ differential. I do like the people I work with but it's a dead end for me and gives me no motivation honestly. i'm basically working to live in nola.
I really want to move to Houston to be close to my family.
Will- they told me that they don't have much of a way to move in the training pay as to level it for all candidates. "but don't count us out just yet".. wtf does that mean? i'm thinking there is always room to move. I have a year and half of inside sales experience, they just want me to go through training from ground up and I understand that, but i'll be struggling bad in Dallas on that pay.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 9:03 pm to 337tigergirl
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Will- they told me that they don't have much of a way to move in the training pay as to level it for all candidates. "but don't count us out just yet".. wtf does that mean? i'm thinking there is always room to move. I have a year and half of inside sales experience, they just want me to go through training from ground up and I understand that, but i'll be struggling bad in Dallas on that pay.
I have a budget that I have to work with when I go to hire. However, for candidates that I really want that are out of my budget range, I seek out approval from senior management to make it happen. Bottom line, if they really want you, they can get it done providing their number makes sense to you.
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