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Pelican Pipe Dream Offseason? (Long Read)
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:32 am
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:32 am
Free Agency
Nikola Pekovic, C, Minnesota Timberwolves
Stats
Pek highlights
vs Celtics
Status on July 1: Restricted free agent(NBA.com)
What he’s selling: With the eternal premium on productive big men, Pekovic showed flashes of being an absolute nightmare in the low post for opposing teams. A 7-foot, 300-pound block of granite, Pekovic averaged 16.3 ppg and 8.8 rpg last season and held it down in the Timberwolves’ frontcourt without Kevin Love available for the majority of the season. He’s got a size/skill-set combination that makes him a rarity in a league that treasures big men who can play high impact basketball on both ends of the floor.
What he’s not saying: The only problem with Pekovic is the 174-game sample size teams have to work with in evaluating the upside of a big man who is 26 and perhaps already deeper into his physical prime than you want a third-year player to be.
What he’s worth: The Houston Rockets used a three-year, $25 million offer sheet to pry Omer Asik away from the Chicago Bulls last summer. An offer like that could work similar wonders for someone trying to slip into the Twin Cities and sneak out with a starting center.
Likely landing spot(s): Minnesota can’t afford to let him walk, not with the regime change and whatever other roster changes Flip Saunders and his new crew have in store. Plus, Pekovic has become a cult favorite in Minneapolis.
NBA Draft
Anthony Bennett, SF, UNLV
Highlights
scout report
Strengths(valleyofthesuns.com)
There are very few certainties going into this year’s NBA Draft, but Anthony Bennett being far and away the most polished frontcourt player at the offensive end is unquestionably among them. While he may look like an undersized four at 6-foot-8, the UNLV standout is a multidimensional scorer and a terrific threat both in the lane and from the perimeter.
Bennett is freakishly athletic for his size, finishes at the rim extremely well with either hand and surprisingly has some touch in the paint when pushed away from the basket.
While the Toronto native has the length and athleticism to be a terrorizing force down low, it’s his knack for the three-point shot that really gives opposing defenders reason to panic. As a freshman, Bennett averaged exactly one three-point field goal make a game and shot 37.5 for the season. On four separate occasions, he made three or more in a game. Although it’s not his primary offensive weapon, Bennett’s ability to face up to the basket and hit jump shots with confidence will almost certainly play an important role in how successful he is at the next level.
Question marks
Heading into the draft process, Bennett’s defensive laziness, up-and-down motor and size were among the major concerns NBA scouts had, but at this point, those are secondary to his health.
On May 8, the UNLV forward went under the knife to repair the rotator cuff in his left shoulder. At the time of Bennett’s surgery, his recovery time was listed at about four months – meaning his draft stock wouldn’t be influenced by the NBA Combine or individual team workouts.
Bennett’s shoulder issue presents a small red flag only because he was injury-plagued throughout his last two years in high school as well. His surgeon, Dr. David Altchek, however, said the damage done to his rotator cuff was by no means considered career-threatening and that Bennett is expected to make a full recovery.
While teams would have liked to have seen what Bennett could do in a controlled setting like the NBA Combine, all and all, his absence shouldn’t affect where his name is called on June 27.
“You always would prefer a guy is healthy, works out for you and can play in summer league,” one GM told ESPN.com. “However, I don’t think in this case that it will really matter. We got a good feel for his game. He’s one of the most NBA-ready prospects in the draft. I wouldn’t blink taking him in the Top 5 as long as the surgery is successful.”
X-factor
Although he spent just a year with the Running Rebels, Bennett did more than enough to prove his worth as a top 5 pick. The former McDonald’s All-American has all the traits that make for a great low-post scorer — 7-foot-1 wingspan, impressive footwork and an ability to create space for himself in the lane or at the basket — but he also has a few that are not common for one-year college prospects.
Among NCAA frontcourt players, Bennett was as efficient as they come in 2012-13. Per 40 minutes, he averaged over 26 points per game and had a true shooting percentage around 60 percent.
He can score in just about every way imaginable – dunks, tip-ins, eight-foot floaters, free throws three-point shots – and did so at a very consistent level as a freshman.
Laziness might be a concern at the defensive end but it’s never been one for Bennett at the offensive end. He is relentless on the glass, an above-average ball handler and a threat to score regardless of where he is on the floor.
Few other players being considered in this year’s lottery can say that.
Bennett can space the floor and has the threat of a jump shot, but he also has the quickness to beat his man to the basket and isn’t afraid to get physical on the glass.
Projected Depth Chart
C Nikola Pekovic/ Robin Lopez/ Jason Smith
PF Anthony Davis/ Ryan Anderson/ Jason Smith
SF Anthony Bennett/ Farouq Aminu/ Darius Miller
SG Eric Gordon/ Austin Rivers/ Darius Miller
PG Greivis Vasquez/ Austin Rivers/ Brian Roberts
Nikola Pekovic, C, Minnesota Timberwolves
Stats
Pek highlights
vs Celtics
Status on July 1: Restricted free agent(NBA.com)
What he’s selling: With the eternal premium on productive big men, Pekovic showed flashes of being an absolute nightmare in the low post for opposing teams. A 7-foot, 300-pound block of granite, Pekovic averaged 16.3 ppg and 8.8 rpg last season and held it down in the Timberwolves’ frontcourt without Kevin Love available for the majority of the season. He’s got a size/skill-set combination that makes him a rarity in a league that treasures big men who can play high impact basketball on both ends of the floor.
What he’s not saying: The only problem with Pekovic is the 174-game sample size teams have to work with in evaluating the upside of a big man who is 26 and perhaps already deeper into his physical prime than you want a third-year player to be.
What he’s worth: The Houston Rockets used a three-year, $25 million offer sheet to pry Omer Asik away from the Chicago Bulls last summer. An offer like that could work similar wonders for someone trying to slip into the Twin Cities and sneak out with a starting center.
Likely landing spot(s): Minnesota can’t afford to let him walk, not with the regime change and whatever other roster changes Flip Saunders and his new crew have in store. Plus, Pekovic has become a cult favorite in Minneapolis.
NBA Draft
Anthony Bennett, SF, UNLV
Highlights
scout report
Strengths(valleyofthesuns.com)
There are very few certainties going into this year’s NBA Draft, but Anthony Bennett being far and away the most polished frontcourt player at the offensive end is unquestionably among them. While he may look like an undersized four at 6-foot-8, the UNLV standout is a multidimensional scorer and a terrific threat both in the lane and from the perimeter.
Bennett is freakishly athletic for his size, finishes at the rim extremely well with either hand and surprisingly has some touch in the paint when pushed away from the basket.
While the Toronto native has the length and athleticism to be a terrorizing force down low, it’s his knack for the three-point shot that really gives opposing defenders reason to panic. As a freshman, Bennett averaged exactly one three-point field goal make a game and shot 37.5 for the season. On four separate occasions, he made three or more in a game. Although it’s not his primary offensive weapon, Bennett’s ability to face up to the basket and hit jump shots with confidence will almost certainly play an important role in how successful he is at the next level.
Question marks
Heading into the draft process, Bennett’s defensive laziness, up-and-down motor and size were among the major concerns NBA scouts had, but at this point, those are secondary to his health.
On May 8, the UNLV forward went under the knife to repair the rotator cuff in his left shoulder. At the time of Bennett’s surgery, his recovery time was listed at about four months – meaning his draft stock wouldn’t be influenced by the NBA Combine or individual team workouts.
Bennett’s shoulder issue presents a small red flag only because he was injury-plagued throughout his last two years in high school as well. His surgeon, Dr. David Altchek, however, said the damage done to his rotator cuff was by no means considered career-threatening and that Bennett is expected to make a full recovery.
While teams would have liked to have seen what Bennett could do in a controlled setting like the NBA Combine, all and all, his absence shouldn’t affect where his name is called on June 27.
“You always would prefer a guy is healthy, works out for you and can play in summer league,” one GM told ESPN.com. “However, I don’t think in this case that it will really matter. We got a good feel for his game. He’s one of the most NBA-ready prospects in the draft. I wouldn’t blink taking him in the Top 5 as long as the surgery is successful.”
X-factor
Although he spent just a year with the Running Rebels, Bennett did more than enough to prove his worth as a top 5 pick. The former McDonald’s All-American has all the traits that make for a great low-post scorer — 7-foot-1 wingspan, impressive footwork and an ability to create space for himself in the lane or at the basket — but he also has a few that are not common for one-year college prospects.
Among NCAA frontcourt players, Bennett was as efficient as they come in 2012-13. Per 40 minutes, he averaged over 26 points per game and had a true shooting percentage around 60 percent.
He can score in just about every way imaginable – dunks, tip-ins, eight-foot floaters, free throws three-point shots – and did so at a very consistent level as a freshman.
Laziness might be a concern at the defensive end but it’s never been one for Bennett at the offensive end. He is relentless on the glass, an above-average ball handler and a threat to score regardless of where he is on the floor.
Few other players being considered in this year’s lottery can say that.
Bennett can space the floor and has the threat of a jump shot, but he also has the quickness to beat his man to the basket and isn’t afraid to get physical on the glass.
Projected Depth Chart
C Nikola Pekovic/ Robin Lopez/ Jason Smith
PF Anthony Davis/ Ryan Anderson/ Jason Smith
SF Anthony Bennett/ Farouq Aminu/ Darius Miller
SG Eric Gordon/ Austin Rivers/ Darius Miller
PG Greivis Vasquez/ Austin Rivers/ Brian Roberts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:36 am to partywiththelombardi
I wouldn't call that a "pipe-dream", as you only have two roster additions.
Pek will make more than Asik IMO and probably priced himself out of what we would pay.
You're going to get lots of flack for Bennett because lots of people don't think he can play SF...they think he's an undersized 4 (which seems to be the case on the defensive end at least).
Pek will make more than Asik IMO and probably priced himself out of what we would pay.
You're going to get lots of flack for Bennett because lots of people don't think he can play SF...they think he's an undersized 4 (which seems to be the case on the defensive end at least).
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:37 am to partywiththelombardi
quote:
SF Anthony Bennett
No
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:41 am to Fun Bunch
Im all in for PEK...Bennett just seems like a potentially great player that could fall to us...he might be the pelican jarvis jones...offensively i think he can handle the 3...defensively they might be right about him...i just think upgrading the 3 is a bigger need than the 1 unless mccollum or burke is the percieved answer but drafting a 1 in back to back drafts obviously implies the AR pick was a fail after just 1 season.
and yes pek will make more...but it all depends on his market...i think we could be the highest bidder unless someone give him a max
and yes pek will make more...but it all depends on his market...i think we could be the highest bidder unless someone give him a max
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 11:44 am
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:42 am to partywiththelombardi
quote:
Anthony Bennett, SF, UNLV
Why not trade with Washington for the no. 3 pick?
Nene+ No.3+ 2015 top 10 protected pick+2nd round pick+3m cash for Ryan Anderson+Jason Smith+ No. 6
Allows Pelicans to get Otto Porter.
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 11:43 am
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:43 am to partywiththelombardi
quote:
ola Pekovic, C, Minnesota Timberwolves
I think the Timberwolves will match any deal outside of a max contract. Maybe we can work out some sign and trade deal, but who knows.
quote:
Anthony Bennett, SF, UNLV
Already stated but he's not a SF
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:48 am to tgr4ever
You want to swap Anderson and Smith for Nene and a far future draft pick just to draft Porter? That's insanity.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:53 am to TigerinATL
Anderson + #6 (?)
For
Parsons/Montiejunas or Robinson/Asik
Still have a ton of cap space to fill out roster and you have solid depth. Two proven starters for an unknown and a guy who doesn't really fit with Davis at the moment.
Houston makes room for Howard and adds a stretch 4 to play with him.
Pelicans:
PG: Vasquez/Roberts
SG: Gordon/Rivers
SF: Parsons/Miller
PF: Davis/Smith/Montiejunas or Robinson
C: Asik/Lopez
Plus cap space for free agency
I do like Pek though.
For
Parsons/Montiejunas or Robinson/Asik
Still have a ton of cap space to fill out roster and you have solid depth. Two proven starters for an unknown and a guy who doesn't really fit with Davis at the moment.
Houston makes room for Howard and adds a stretch 4 to play with him.
Pelicans:
PG: Vasquez/Roberts
SG: Gordon/Rivers
SF: Parsons/Miller
PF: Davis/Smith/Montiejunas or Robinson
C: Asik/Lopez
Plus cap space for free agency
I do like Pek though.
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 11:59 am
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:10 pm to Colonel Flagg
quote:
a guy who doesn't really fit with Davis
I'm ok with Anderson as a 6th man, but I'd have to really think about that trade. The main negative is strengthening a division rival.
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:21 pm to TigerinATL
Well I really like Anderson as a player for us, but Davis next to real centers in crunch time seems more valuable to me.
While it would help the Rockets it would drastically help our team as we would be deep and have a solid roster with cap space and trade assets to improve. I think we would be a playoff team when healthy.
Also the Pelicans need to focus on makin the best roster and not worry about other teams. We need to win and be a playoff team.
We aren't a title contender who is trying to get a little better, but in doing so greatly strengthens our main competition for a title.
While it would help the Rockets it would drastically help our team as we would be deep and have a solid roster with cap space and trade assets to improve. I think we would be a playoff team when healthy.
Also the Pelicans need to focus on makin the best roster and not worry about other teams. We need to win and be a playoff team.
We aren't a title contender who is trying to get a little better, but in doing so greatly strengthens our main competition for a title.
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 6/4/13 at 1:40 pm to Colonel Flagg
quote:
Anderson + #6 (?) For Parsons/Montiejunas or Robinson/Asik
Pels should only deal with Houston if they will give up Parsons. And unless it is a sweet offer, I dont think Houston gives up Parsons unless paired with Lin.
Judging by the other Houston trade thread, I like Asik a lot more than most here do. Hes worth his $.
Anderson/Lopez/2014 lotto protected 1st for Asik/Parsons/Robinson might tempt Houston (not sure if they save enough $ to offer a max). Hate to give up a draft pick though.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 2:42 pm to corndeaux
Well the idea was Houston would get Anderson, a high lotto pick, and the room for Howard in the deal.
I don't know if the #6 pick would put too big of a hold on the salary cap space though. So I guess it would have to be a 2014.
I don't see how they keep Lopez as they are trying to make space. No one is going to want Lin.
I don't know if the #6 pick would put too big of a hold on the salary cap space though. So I guess it would have to be a 2014.
I don't see how they keep Lopez as they are trying to make space. No one is going to want Lin.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 2:47 pm to Colonel Flagg
quote:
I don't know if the #6 pick would put too big of a hold on the salary cap
The #6 pick is slotted to make $2.6 million. If they want to give Howard $20 million and fill out the rest of the roster with minimum guys then in addition to Parsons/Asik they need to send out TRob and one of their other young PFs, presumably Royce White.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 3:07 pm to Colonel Flagg
Houston isn't giving up Parsons. He may have the best contract in the NBA.
Lopez vs Asik while comparing their salaries and I'd rather just keep Lopez.
Robinson could be good but he's a 4. Montejunas is a wild card. I think Houston likes him a lot, though
Lopez vs Asik while comparing their salaries and I'd rather just keep Lopez.
Robinson could be good but he's a 4. Montejunas is a wild card. I think Houston likes him a lot, though
Posted on 6/4/13 at 3:17 pm to Colonel Flagg
Maybe a top 10 protection on the pick. I just dont think Houston will want any extra guaranteed salary this summer.
I could be wrong on the dates, but couldnt houston deal for Lopez, then buy him out and save ~$4million in cap space for FA?
If not, then my idea makes no sense at all.
Yep. Even packaged with Parsons, I dont think I would want the Pels to make that move.
If Houston works out a S/T with LAL, I could see Dantoni wanting him.
quote:
I don't see how they keep Lopez as they are trying to make space.
I could be wrong on the dates, but couldnt houston deal for Lopez, then buy him out and save ~$4million in cap space for FA?
If not, then my idea makes no sense at all.
quote:
No one is going to want Lin
Yep. Even packaged with Parsons, I dont think I would want the Pels to make that move.
If Houston works out a S/T with LAL, I could see Dantoni wanting him.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 3:20 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:
Houston isn't giving up Parsons. He may have the best contract in the NBA.
Houston can dump their players easy enough, but they probably can't get a guy like Ryan Anderson back in return from just any team with cap space. Just like they were ready to overpay for Pau Gasol when they thought it'd land them Nene too, they'd over pay for Ryan Anderson if they thought it'd get them Dwight.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 3:20 pm to corndeaux
quote:
I could be wrong on the dates, but couldnt houston deal for Lopez, then buy him out and save ~$4million in cap space for FA?
We would have the cap space to take on the people that they'd hypothetically be offering without sending them Lopez, which would probably be the preference for both teams.
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 6/4/13 at 3:29 pm to THRILLHO
quote:
We would have the cap space to take on the people that they'd hypothetically be offering without sending them Lopez, which would probably be the preference for both teams.
That makes a hell of a lot more sense than what i was thinking.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 3:59 pm to Colonel Flagg
Why not draft burke and pick up josh smith in free agency and trade gravy for a pick while his value is high. resign aminu for cheap and sign a veteran like Mason to a few million deal.
Burke/Rivers/Roberts
Gordon/Rivers/Veteran
Smith/Aminu/miller
Davis/Anderson/Amudson
Lopez/Smith
You could have so much versatility with this group. you could have a Burke/Gordon/Smith/Anderson/Davis lineup if you want to play quick or you could play Burke/Gordon/Smith/Davis/Lopez for a bigger low post game. Josh Smith is the answer at small forward for us and if burke falls to us he will be the pg of the future
Burke/Rivers/Roberts
Gordon/Rivers/Veteran
Smith/Aminu/miller
Davis/Anderson/Amudson
Lopez/Smith
You could have so much versatility with this group. you could have a Burke/Gordon/Smith/Anderson/Davis lineup if you want to play quick or you could play Burke/Gordon/Smith/Davis/Lopez for a bigger low post game. Josh Smith is the answer at small forward for us and if burke falls to us he will be the pg of the future
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