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Jason Isbell unloaded (link)
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:34 am
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:34 am
Posted on 6/1/13 at 12:58 pm to DriveByBBQ
Good read, thanks for posting
I disagree with the opinion that his first two solo albums were mediocre, though
I disagree with the opinion that his first two solo albums were mediocre, though
This post was edited on 6/1/13 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 6/1/13 at 5:45 pm to LoneStarTiger
Good article - and ill say by industry standards they weren't bad but by his potential ability the first two were inconsistent and at times disappointing. They had glimpses of greatness but they were not great albums.
Posted on 6/1/13 at 6:41 pm to NoSaint
Sirens of the ditch was excellent
Posted on 6/1/13 at 10:37 pm to TheDoc
If you had to list his best songs (including dbt) how deep would you get before you hit anything off it? It has some good songs but not the grand slam home runs he's hit. It also has a couple of "meh" songs that I tend to skip. It's still good but its not his finest and is far short of his potential. Measured against other artists - it's quality, measured against himself it's certainly lacking something special.
Decoration day
Outfit
GLL
Alabama pines
Danko Manuel
All come to mind just offhand as head and shoulders above the best of sirens. Disclaimer: I haven't listened to sirens in a bit, but I'd be starting to weigh in a razor town against some tracks off here we rest at this point I think.
Decoration day
Outfit
GLL
Alabama pines
Danko Manuel
All come to mind just offhand as head and shoulders above the best of sirens. Disclaimer: I haven't listened to sirens in a bit, but I'd be starting to weigh in a razor town against some tracks off here we rest at this point I think.
Posted on 6/2/13 at 12:26 am to NoSaint
Stopping By is one of his best songs since leaving DBT, but I feel what you are saying
Posted on 6/2/13 at 3:05 am to Spaulding Smails
Stopping by is a really good one. I'd probably put that a cut above just about anything on the first two solo... Which goes hand in hand with what I was saying the highs are higher and the lows not as low when comparing here we rest to sirens. I like sirens but I think he's coming back around to that throne of being one of the best of the generation that he showed flashes of at 22. Writing decoration day and outfit over a 2 week stretch is not the same guy that put out his first two solo, but it seems like he's on the cusp of being there again.
What I've heard of southeastern sounds fantastic. I'm really looking forward to it. I'm curious to hear if the clarity of sobriety along with the rest of the positivity in his life help him take that next step and he can work that magic for a full album. If the cuts I've heard are any reflection he's headed back to great places.
What I've heard of southeastern sounds fantastic. I'm really looking forward to it. I'm curious to hear if the clarity of sobriety along with the rest of the positivity in his life help him take that next step and he can work that magic for a full album. If the cuts I've heard are any reflection he's headed back to great places.
Posted on 6/2/13 at 1:22 pm to NoSaint
The thing about Isbell with DBT is that it had that tuned down, dark and gritty sound, and tied with his voice, took it to the next level...he strayed away from that on his albums, understandably, but if he did a song with that sound again, I feel people will respond favorably
Posted on 6/2/13 at 1:29 pm to NoSaint
From Sirens, I'd list Dress Blues and Razor Town
And from the 400 unit, Streetlights, which may be my favorite Isbell song
And from the 400 unit, Streetlights, which may be my favorite Isbell song
Posted on 6/2/13 at 1:47 pm to LoneStarTiger
Street lights was a very good one I forgot.
Like I said, both are good albums with good cuts, I just think he's got a lot of potential that he didnt take advantage of as consistently as he has before or (hopefully) after. I wouldn't call them mediocre but I think he is in an upward trajectory since them.
That said, good excuse to listen to him this morning.
Like I said, both are good albums with good cuts, I just think he's got a lot of potential that he didnt take advantage of as consistently as he has before or (hopefully) after. I wouldn't call them mediocre but I think he is in an upward trajectory since them.
That said, good excuse to listen to him this morning.
Posted on 6/2/13 at 2:21 pm to NoSaint
go back and listen to sirens
it's a great album
it's a great album
Posted on 6/2/13 at 4:35 pm to TheDoc
Likewise, I'd say go grab the first cut on iTunes - Stockholm. I think it's much more naturally Jason isbell. Something about sirens (and I re listened today) sounds like him trying to write a Jason isbell album, instead of just being him writing an album (as utterly pretentious as that sounds).... Like the pressure of having the spotlight 100% on him, the pressure of wanting to say screw you to DBT for dropping him, the pressure of the expectations of being called potentially the best writer of the generation, and his alcohol abuse all took that little something away.... But that he was still stupidly talented.
There's a clarity of vision that I think his best writing has (both lyrically, and musically), and its, just my opinion, a bit more muddled on that album despite still liking it.
There's a clarity of vision that I think his best writing has (both lyrically, and musically), and its, just my opinion, a bit more muddled on that album despite still liking it.
Posted on 6/2/13 at 4:47 pm to NoSaint
DBT didn't "drop" him though...
Anyways, the magician, devil is my running mate, try...
Love all those songs
Anyways, the magician, devil is my running mate, try...
quote:
Track listing
"Brand New Kind of Actress" – 5:35
"Down in A Hole" – 4:22
"Try" – 4:52
"Chicago Promenade" – 3:23
"Dress Blues" – 4:11
"Grown" – 3:46
"Hurricanes and Hand Grenades" – 5:11
"In A Razor Town" – 3:19
"Shotgun Wedding" – 3:49
"The Magician" – 4:20
"The Devil is My Running Mate" – 3:45
Love all those songs
Posted on 6/2/13 at 7:06 pm to TheDoc
Doc- quote from the very article starting the thread:
But the reality was more complicated. Hood called Isbell and suggested he take some time off and get his life together. Isbell replied that if the band was going to tour under the name Drive-By Truckers, he wasn’t going to miss even one show. Cooley then called Isbell and said, as Isbell recalls, “that isn’t going to work for us.” He was forced out. “It was heartbreaking,” Isbell says. “I couldn’t picture what I was going to do. But now I can’t picture things having gone differently. I love those guys, but I’m glad I’m not playing with them anymore. I think they’re glad of it, too.”
I'm also glad you love them, I like several but disagree if you are asserting its among the strongest work in his career. Agree to disagree.
But the reality was more complicated. Hood called Isbell and suggested he take some time off and get his life together. Isbell replied that if the band was going to tour under the name Drive-By Truckers, he wasn’t going to miss even one show. Cooley then called Isbell and said, as Isbell recalls, “that isn’t going to work for us.” He was forced out. “It was heartbreaking,” Isbell says. “I couldn’t picture what I was going to do. But now I can’t picture things having gone differently. I love those guys, but I’m glad I’m not playing with them anymore. I think they’re glad of it, too.”
I'm also glad you love them, I like several but disagree if you are asserting its among the strongest work in his career. Agree to disagree.
This post was edited on 6/2/13 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 6/2/13 at 7:18 pm to NoSaint
quote:
Isbell replied that if the band was going to tour under the name Drive-By Truckers, he wasn’t going to miss even one show. Cooley then called Isbell and said, as Isbell recalls, “that isn’t going to work for us.”
what does that mean though?
everyone knows he left because he couldn't be around shanna...
Posted on 6/2/13 at 7:23 pm to TheDoc
It sounds pretty clear from his quotes that he was fired for his behavior and refusal to deal with it.
Posted on 6/2/13 at 7:26 pm to NoSaint
I'm sure it had something to do with it but he's told me personally he left dbt because of shanna
Posted on 6/2/13 at 7:35 pm to TheDoc
Which is likely hand in hand with his destructive behavior.
I don't know the truth but this article pretty explicitly, with quotes supporting it from him, seems to outline "we told people stuff to make it sound better than it was out of courtesy, but truth is Jason was fired"
I'm sure at the time saying "I wanted to write more and see her less" was probably easier for him than "They told me I was too much of a mess to be a part of the band"
I see why they'd twist the truth then, I don't see why he'd lie now but like I said, I wasn't there for it so just applying common sense from the bits that have been shared.
I don't know the truth but this article pretty explicitly, with quotes supporting it from him, seems to outline "we told people stuff to make it sound better than it was out of courtesy, but truth is Jason was fired"
I'm sure at the time saying "I wanted to write more and see her less" was probably easier for him than "They told me I was too much of a mess to be a part of the band"
I see why they'd twist the truth then, I don't see why he'd lie now but like I said, I wasn't there for it so just applying common sense from the bits that have been shared.
Posted on 6/2/13 at 8:03 pm to NoSaint
Can't blame the guy for not wanting to be in a band with his estranged ex wife..
I'm sure he was a mess at that time too. It all seemed to have combined for a bad exit.
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