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Looking to re-finance and some some questions on first quote

Posted on 5/30/13 at 1:27 pm
Posted by JOHNN
Prairieville
Member since Nov 2008
4362 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 1:27 pm
Just some background:
Mortgage is with Bank of America.
Rate is 5.875 and have 23yrs and 3m left on loan.
Note with everything included is 1075. Currently owe 119k.
My credit score as of yesterday was 810 and my wife was 804.
Total income between us is roughly 105k.

So Bank of America offered a rate of 3.875% and said our best option was to do a FHA streamline loan. So the loan would go from 23yrs to 20yrs. Also said our loan would go from 1075 to 995 a month with everything. Said closing would be roughly 1800 but we currently have 1200 in escrow already.

Anyway, is this a pretty good deal? Im sorry if I left some critical info out but my wife usually does all this. If yall need any other info I'll get it for you. She has talked with GMFS and they are going to get all of our options together and let us know something soon. The guy did recommend that we do a conventional loan for 30 years since we dont plan to stay in the house for more than 5 years. She also called Iberia Bank but havent heard anything back yet.

Anyway any thoughts or recommendations would be appreciated.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5844 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 2:16 pm to
get away from the FHA loan to get out of PMI..whats the value of your house compared to what you owe? also the conventional 20yr rate is about the same as the FHA 20..conventional will be a better loan for you..
Posted by JOHNN
Prairieville
Member since Nov 2008
4362 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 2:47 pm to
Bank of america put the value at 135 without doing an actual appraisal on it.

Can we do the conventional if we dont have 20% equity in the house?
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5844 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 3:00 pm to
yes you can and with your credit scores PMI will be much cheaper..FHA streamline is the easy way to do the loan for them..
Posted by JOHNN
Prairieville
Member since Nov 2008
4362 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

FHA streamline is the easy way to do the loan for them..


Thanks. The guy at gmfs just told my wife the same thing.

On another note, does the rate quoted sound good or should we do more shopping around?
Posted by GrantTheFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
336 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 8:11 pm to
That's a pretty good rate, they've been easing up in the last week or so. BoA will probably be your cheapest route since you're with them now and they are waiving some fees/costs for $1,800 in closing costs. GMFS and/or a banks/brokers are likely to be in the $2,500-3,500 range on total closing costs. If you have 20% equity, you won't have PMI with FHA or conventional, if not, you will, either way.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5844 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:58 am to
john the 20yr rate is 3.75% this morning conventional...i cant say anything bad about gmfs i used to work for them..except there closing cost are crazy high..
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 11:35 am to
quote:

hawkeye007
quote:

john the 20yr rate is 3.75% this morning conventional...i cant say anything bad about gmfs i used to work for them..except there closing cost are crazy high..


GMFS started by Tee Brown. That's the son-in-law and his son of the founder of United Companies, who took over for the man that founded UC. They started UC Lending and things took off for them in the late 90's "renting" desk space at banks as they pioneered sub-prime lending.

They took rejected bank loan applicants and wrote them loans.

GMFS came out of UC Lending's ashes when they tanked in the very late 90's, along with a few other companies here around town (Homeowner's Loan, etc).

GMFS will try to use their "in-house" Homeowner's Company, their "in-house" title company, etc. Employees there have created Title Plus (which works with other companies but has a very strong lean to GMFS) and the Insurance company to maximize their profits.

From personal experience, their loan officer I was hooked up with by a realtor last year was knowledgeable, but solicited me for a multi-level-marketing product called Protandim at a business lunch I thought was designed to go over the status of my loan application.

I've been in the business, and I've seen a lot of stuff, but that truly turned me off. We used a clause in our contract to decide against buying the home we focused on at that time (The builder built at base flood elavation, and the insurance costs for flood were sky-high as a result).

But even though he approved us through GMFS just four months prior, I went to another company when we decided to build late last year.

I would recommend NOLA Lending Group. They did a great job for me.

I closed at 3.625 a few weeks ago with less than a point in closing costs. As with any transaction of this size, keep your eyes peeled.
This post was edited on 5/31/13 at 11:36 am
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
6784 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

I would recommend NOLA Lending Group. They did a great job for me.


I highly recommend them as well. We used Kim P. and she went out of her way time and time again to make closing happen on our terms and the day we needed it to happen.
Posted by rickgrimes
Member since Jan 2011
4180 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 1:42 pm to
I made this example for some other poster who wanted to refinance. If you know your way around Excel, you can use my formulas by changing the appropriate numbers:

Mortgage refi Excel formulas
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