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Just bought my first boat...preowned

Posted on 5/27/13 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Ronnie Hot Finger
Metairie
Member since May 2013
316 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 9:48 pm
It was a drama filled weekend with people telling me do this do that, get this get that, fix this fix that blah blah...anyways. One thing that really concerns me b/c of how big a deal he was making it was a friend of mine (thinks he knows everything about everything with boats) was telling me was that my transducer for my GPS/depth finder shouldn't be where it is- on the back of the boat and in the water- but it should be inside the hull. The reason this came up was that sometimes when we were running the depth display would blink indicating it wasn't getting an accurate reading rather than staying still and adjusting every few seconds. Experienced boaters, what do you guys have to say about this?
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 9:49 pm to
So what kind of boat did you buy?
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 9:50 pm to
You can have it either way.

Mine is on my transom


If your friend thinks that his way is the only way than he doesnt know jack
Posted by MotorBoater
Hammond
Member since Sep 2010
1677 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 9:51 pm to
Pics please?
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

Ronnie Hot Finger


quote:

It was a drama filled weekend with people telling me do this do that, get this get that, fix this fix that blah blah...anyways. One thing that really concerns me b/c of how big a deal he was making it was a friend of mine (thinks he knows everything about everything with boats) was telling me was that my transducer for my GPS/depth finder shouldn't be where it is- on the back of the boat and in the water- but it should be inside the hull. The reason this came up was that sometimes when we were running the depth display would blink indicating it wasn't getting an accurate reading rather than staying still and adjusting every few seconds. Experienced boaters, what do you guys have to say about this?




sounds like a ronnie hot mess
Posted by Nascar Fan
Columbia La.
Member since Jul 2011
18574 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 9:55 pm to
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Mine is on my transom

& Mine works fine
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166297 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 10:00 pm to
Me too works fine
Posted by HairyStamper13
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
407 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 10:03 pm to
Should be on transom.

And how bout pics of the boat? Congrats on the purchase
Posted by MorningWood
On the coast of North Mexico
Member since May 2009
2669 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 10:15 pm to
It is working fine and can be mounted either way. You are losing bottom when running because the boat is traveling faster than the transducer can receive thensignal. Once you stop it should go back to working.
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 11:38 pm to
quote:

You are losing bottom when running because the boat is traveling faster than the transducer can receive the signal.


This should NOT be happening.

Most likely either cavitation bubbles from the hull are passing the transducer or it's not set at the correct angle/height and is creating an air gap, itself.
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3092 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 7:06 am to
Transom is my preferred mounting point. How close is it to the motor? It needs to be at least a foot / 18 inches from the foot of the motor to get out of turbulance. If there is any air bubbles around it it will give a bad reading. Also needs to be parallel to the water.

Google the make and model of the depth finder to find an owners manual. It will have install instructions and you can see if it is mounted correctly.
Posted by CoastieGM
Member since Aug 2012
3185 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 7:32 am to
Congrats on getting a PRE-OWNED boat...the only way to go.

Hull or transom. Transom is easiest and most common. Usually works just fine. However, some hull designs simply give problems (unique curvature lines), but some sort of tweaking will usually fix it. However, occasionally it won't. I had one of those problem children about 20 years ago. Finally just had to mount inside the hull...problem solved

Military small boats have hull mounted transducers.

I would try tweaking it like the previous OBers suggested. Only if that fails would I hull mount it.
Posted by Ronnie Hot Finger
Metairie
Member since May 2013
316 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:03 am to
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It needs to be at least a foot / 18 inches from the foot of the motor to get out of turbulance.


I'd say that's a good estimation of where it is. more towards 18 inches than a foot so I'm okay there.

quote:

Also needs to be parallel to the water.



It is also parallel to the water so I'm good there.

quote:

Google the make and model of the depth finder to find an owners manual. It will have install instructions and you can see if it is mounted correctly


I didn't even think about the user's manual having installation instructions but I will definitely look into that.

Also, pics to come shortly.
This post was edited on 5/28/13 at 8:04 am
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:11 am to
Either way is fine. Ive had both but prefer the transom. You will lose signa when running but you shouldnt be running off of it anyway, its behind you and its too late when it reads on there. My favorite set up is both. You can get a Y cable and hook both into your unit, this will allow for constant reading when running.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:14 am to
Something else that hasnt been mentioned is the type of transducer. If you have a transom mount, its a better puck and and you should waist sensitivity by shooting it through the hull. If you want that too get the split cable and run a cheap puck inside, completely different type for through the hull, even though yours would work.


LINK
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24957 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:21 am to
Sounds like the transducer is experiencing cavitation from the prop wash (being mounted to close to engine) or is at the wrong depth/angle for the hull. It should be mounted parallel to the hull running surface and at least 15" outboard of the engine cavitation plate.
Posted by Ronnie Hot Finger
Metairie
Member since May 2013
316 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:23 am to
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You will lose signa when running but you shouldnt be running off of it anyway, its behind you and its too late when it reads on there.


What other way is there to tell the depth then if I'm not using that?

quote:

You can get a Y cable and hook both into your unit, this will allow for constant reading when running.


Can you elaborate on this? Not following since I'm new.

Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:31 am to
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What other way is there to tell the depth then if I'm not using that?


If your using it to check your depth while running, you will get burned soon. If your running, know the channel or dont run is what Im saying. If your reading that to feel safe running, its on the back of the boat so its not designed for that, and anything it picks up will be too late to save you. Not saying you are, but some of my most expensive SI units wouldnt read at all on plain and I couldnt move them becasue they had to have open shots to each side at 180 degrees and it didnt bother me the least because if I was running I wasnt using it for finding structure.

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Can you elaborate on this? Not following since I'm new.

Best advice I can tell you is read your book or call the company it came from and ask them. But they make wires that have splits on them so you can have a cheap puck style in the boat to shoot throught the hull and the transom mount both hooked up at all times.
This post was edited on 5/28/13 at 8:33 am
Posted by Ronnie Hot Finger
Metairie
Member since May 2013
316 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:34 am to
Oh okay. That definitely makes sense. I'm going to get the manual and do some reading up on it.

By the way here is a pic of the boat. Ignore that dumbass name on the side cause that was the first thing we took care of. It's a 19'-7" Pioneer.

This post was edited on 5/28/13 at 8:36 am
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:36 am to
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Most likely either cavitation bubbles from the hull are passing the transducer or it's not set at the correct angle/height and is creating an air gap, itself.


THIS! or hull placement.
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