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Kings/Sonics Saga Update: Kings stay, Seattle shut out

Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:17 pm
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:17 pm
I updated the last post in the thread. Press conference expected any minute. Streaming live at this link LINK
This post was edited on 5/15/13 at 5:25 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95746 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:29 pm to
I doubt it will do them much good.


The finance and relocation committees have already given a thumbs-down on this sale.

All this may do is give Ballmer a foot up on buying the Milwaukee Bucks from former Sen. Herb Kohl, as it is one of the only other teams on the market.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52799 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:31 pm to
Allowing the Bucks to move to Seattle would do wonders for Cole's legacy in Wisconsin.
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12310 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:35 pm to
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I doubt it will do them much good.


The finance and relocation committees have already given a thumbs-down on this sale.

They voted down relocation, but not the sale. Can the NBA force the Maloofs to sell the team for $100 million less to the Sacramento people? They were already a little short on the previous bid.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115958 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:42 pm to
That's almost double what the Hornets went for like a year ago.

There's no way the BoG can turn that down if its a legit offer.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95746 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:44 pm to
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Can the NBA force the Maloofs to sell the team for $100 million less to the Sacramento people? They were already a little short on the previous bid.


I'd normally say "No", but I think the amount of sympathy the other owners have for the Maloofs is pretty small.

They may force this if only because the Maloofs have the choice between taking the smaller deal from the Sacramento group or going insolvent thanks to the money woes from other investments, like casinos.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19359 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:46 pm to
Let the bucks go to SEA into the western conf and let the Pels move into the eastern conf where they rightfully belong IMO
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95746 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Let the bucks go to SEA into the western conf and let the Pels move into the eastern conf where they rightfully belong IMO


If Milwaukee moves to Seattle, I'd say there is a 50-50 shot of that. The other possible team moving would be Memphis, which could fit into the Bucks' old spot against Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, and Indiana.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115958 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 3:09 pm to
Yeah it would either be Memphis or New Orleans.

This sale would single-handedly raise the value of all of their organizations. I'm shocked they are sticking with Sac.

If Sac moved to Seattle they wouldn't have to shift anyone.

If Milwaukee did there would have to be some serious shuffling.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 4:24 pm to
No, it just further proves the point that franchises aren't bought to make money, they're bought as playtoys of super rich people. This isn't a "valuation." Having worked on actual valuations for franchises and seen numerous actual major pro sports franchises financials, I can matter of factly tell you that purchase prices are normalized for (what we at least dubbed them) "luxury premiums."
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41200 posts
Posted on 5/11/13 at 7:42 pm to
This is really getting interesting-

1) The new deal includes a $115 million relocation fee ($4 million for each owner)

2) Maloofs announce if the deal doesn't go through they won't sell to the Sacramento group, instead they would sell 20% of the team to the Seattle group for $125 million & still run the team.


ESPN
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71645 posts
Posted on 5/11/13 at 7:44 pm to
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2) Maloofs announce if the deal doesn't go through they won't sell to the Sacramento group, instead they would sell 20% of the team to the Seattle group for $125 million & still run the team.



So when does someone in Sacto just off them?
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 5/11/13 at 7:46 pm to
Stern & pals need to accept the fact that the Maloofs are going to be big winners in this either way and let them sell to any group they want.

Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12310 posts
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:59 pm to
You have a whole city in Sacramento that hates the owners. The Maloofs hate them back and don't want to deal with them at all. If the Maloofs will only sell to the Seattle group, how does the NBA stop that?

Also, there was an interesting article on ESPN a day or two ago that said Phil Jackson is waiting to see what happens with the Kings. Apparently he hit it off with Chris Hansen and wants to be a part of the Sonics if they come back. I'll link the article in a few minutes.

ETA: Here's the link LINK
This post was edited on 5/11/13 at 10:10 pm
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82032 posts
Posted on 5/11/13 at 10:01 pm to
I'm confused didn't they just vote on this a week or so ago?

Or do they have a vote every time an offer is made?
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12310 posts
Posted on 5/11/13 at 10:12 pm to
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I'm confused didn't they just vote on this a week or so ago?

Or do they have a vote every time an offer is made?

They had a "recommendation" vote. Only 7 people voted and all 30 owners have to vote for it to be final, which will happen on Wednesday. They claimed the first vote was unanimous 12-0, but in reality only 7 people voted and it was a 4-3 vote. The 3 were asked to switch their votes to show unanimity.

The popular theory out there is that Stern wanted to make it seem like a done deal so the Seattle group would back out, but it only made them push further. He really does not want them to move to Seattle.
This post was edited on 5/11/13 at 10:14 pm
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 5/12/13 at 12:06 am to
quote:

If the Maloofs will only sell to the Seattle group, how does the NBA stop that? 


The NBA has to approve the sale- even for a minority share. I doubt Stern et al give a frick about what the Maloofs want at this point.

The Mickey Arison Twitter exchange is a good line on what the committe is thinking. Its not about Seattle. Its about Sacramento stepping up and doing everything the NBA asked for 2 years now

As for the 4-3 vote, that's not a fact at all. The guy who broke it is, big shocker here, a Seattle reporter. The NBA has already called it a "total fabrication."
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
18543 posts
Posted on 5/12/13 at 12:09 am to
wouldn't moving Minnesota to the East make more sense?
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/12/13 at 12:12 am to
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Yeah it would either be Memphis or New Orleans.


Tennessee is in the Southeastern Conference yet the West in the NBA. Makes no damn sense.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
7614 posts
Posted on 5/12/13 at 2:41 am to
I'd love for Seattle to get a team, but Sacramento is a huge underdog.
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