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re: Breaking Bad Season 5 - Part 1 (Spoilers)

Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by iliveinabox
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:59 pm to
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train heist episode


so fricking good.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:31 pm to
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I don't know if you're going to keep checking the thread and this does NOT have a spoiler..but you are going to be floored by the end of season 4. Just incredibly frickin awesome television.


Just finished it and returned to the thread.

Loved it! Show is kick arse! Watched the last two episodes of season 4 tonight.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:48 pm to
blue meth causes zombie apocolypse. the last scene in the finale will be Rick coming out of his coma in TWD

someone made the connection in TWD thread with the pic of Merle and the blue meth.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:57 pm to
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Also I wonder if the show has already kind of foreshadowed Walt and hank teaming up with hank using Walt to help with the Gus investigation.


I dont think they'll team up. At the beginning of last season they show Walt looking really skinny with hair, which leads me to believe his cancer is back. They also show him tearing his bacon and making numbers out of it (his birthday) like Skyler did in the past. As people have pointed out, each time Walt kills someone he takes on one of their characteristics which makes me think he kills skyler. I doubt he would team up with Hank and take on "the bad guys". That just isn't the way Walter White is going out.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:59 pm to
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blue meth causes zombie apocolypse. the last scene in the finale will be Rick coming out of his coma in TWD


Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:11 pm to
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I watched ep 10 of season 4


This thread makes me giddy like a school girl, gonna watch that ep later.


The cartel episode was fabulous. Don Eladio was such a cocksucker. Young Hector was funny as shite.


If you're just now watching s4e10, well buckle up baby, the last 4 eps of season 10 are tremendously tense, some of the best TV of our generation.... until you get to every frickin' episode of season 5.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:20 pm to
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I don't really understand the elliot reference either. Elliot/Gretchen have had nothing to do with Walt for a while. Especially after Walt and Gretchen met in the diner and Walt told her to F off. At that point I assumed that's the last of any communication between the two families.




Grey Matter and Madrigal are connected, like a subsidiary type of connection.

smartass has had a theory for a long time now that Elliot and Gretchen used Walt's crystal formation theories to get super seed funding, possibly/likely from the German conglomerate Madrigal.

Out of that relationship a connection was made somewhere down the line in Madrigal's darker elements and the processes that Walt developed in a lab years and years ago became one of the basis for large scale crystal meth production ie Mexican/European super labs and then on to Gus's use of the Madrigal network of supply and legitimate cover businesses.


Personally I think if his theory has any teeth, then Elliot will likely recognize the crystal structures/quality of Walt's blue and start putting 2 and 2 together and create some problems that might cause Walt need to have a .50 cal machine gun to get a little more sweet revenge.

I don't know, I'm keeping any expectations off the table and will just geek out every week til it's over.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:50 pm to
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It will definitely be interesting watching Hank have the upper hand for the first time in the series.


I don't see Hank as having the upper hand, he's really in a pickle because he can't just bust Walt right now. Walt has been making regular visits to Hank's office, and everyone has seen him there having closed door meetings. Hank can't bust Walt because everyone in the department will think Hank knew about the whole thing. I mean he's been investigating this case for a log time and it's his brother-in-law. Hank will have a hard time explaining everything.

He also used drug money to pay for his hospital bills, so he may be seen as an accomplice just for that. Hank is in a very weird position.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:15 am to
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CtotheVrzrbck


hot damn that's a crazy theory, and if it's even remotely true would blow my mind. Do we actually KNOW that gray matter and madrigal are connected? Like has that been mentioned on the show or is that just pure speculation at this point?

If that theory works out as true, geez talk about even more of a kick in the teeth to Walt. Not only are his former lover and former business partner now married and rich as shite and successful while his life sucks and he has cancer, but the dude would ALSO be even better than Walt at the ONE thing walt is an expert at. I can see why he'd flip his shite if that connection is made.

And I also realized that I kinda wish I hadn't read that prediction, because if it IS true I feel like that's something that would have left my jaw on the floor seeing it come together on the TV. I think I'll quit reading any predicitons now
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:13 am to
FYI, Graymatter is a pharmaceutical company. Graymatter is the source for which everything Walt does.
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 9:16 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:28 am to
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I don't think Todd's family is a big part of it...


They're connected to the Aryan Brotherhood. Walt has simply jumped from one set of really bad guys to another. He thinks he's invincible because he took down Gus. Now he going to start screwing around with Nazis who, unlike Gus, believe in intimidation and murder. Mike was right. They had a good thing going and Walt should have just kept his mouth shut and done his job.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:42 pm to
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They also show him tearing his bacon and making numbers out of it (his birthday) like Skyler did in the past


I mentioned this earlier, but couldn't it be possible that that day was the "birthday" of whatever his fake ID was? The waitress called him a different name, but the birthday was obviously that day because she didnt' question it. If he was trying to change his whole identity, doesnt' it seem like his fake ID would have a different birthday?

Also, in an earlier episode in season 5 Skylar makes his 51st birthday breakfast. Do you think they'd take these last 8 or whatever episodes to span almost an entire year's time?
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 5/11/13 at 11:18 pm to
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I mentioned this earlier, but couldn't it be possible that that day was the "birthday" of whatever his fake ID was? The waitress called him a different name, but the birthday was obviously that day because she didnt' question it. If he was trying to change his whole identity, doesnt' it seem like his fake ID would have a different birthday?



dang, I think that's the first time I've seen someone on here mention that the fake ID is likely not his actual b-day. Sometimes people use their legit b-days so if questioned they just roll out the date off the tongue naturally so as not to raise suspicion.

When Season 5 started everyone automatically assumed 2 years time total had passed... it might be longer. During the Crystal Blue Persuasion montage it appeared that an additional 6-7 months had passed and the baby went from newbie to starting to walk.

If the ID is a later b-day then who knows maybe up to an additional 10-11 months can pass before the Denny's scene.


and to blow your mind a bit LINK
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 8:18 am to
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just got caught up on Breaking Bad and finished the first part of season 5 last night. is this not one of the best 8 TV episodes ever made?
glad you finally got around to watching it after I begged you to


now go blast through House of Cards dammit
Posted by Fat Andy
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 9:47 am to
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When Season 5 started everyone automatically assumed 2 years time total had passed... it might be longer. During the Crystal Blue Persuasion montage it appeared that an additional 6-7 months had passed and the baby went from newbie to starting to walk.

If the ID is a later b-day then who knows maybe up to an additional 10-11 months can pass before the Denny's scene.




3 months passed during that crystal blue persuasion montage alone. here is a bit from an interview Vince did:
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You took four-plus seasons to tell a year in the life of Walter White. Yet you're going to tell more than a year over this final season, and you told three months of Walt's life in a single montage near the end of this episode. How and why have you changed your approach to the passage of time? Vince Gilligan: It is tricky to proportion out the story. It always has been, since day one. In the early going of the show, I saw time passing quicker than it has turned out to pass. The show, story-wise, a lot has happened in very little time, chronologically-speaking. We came to realize that that was the case and should be the case, because Walt,for the first time in his life, is doing a whole lot of living, and he doesn't have much time. That was the philosophy in the early days. And also, this has always been a show about process. It's the process of an average Joe becoming a criminal. There's the morality of that and then the mechanics of that. How do you learn to become a drug dealer? We, in a sense of process, have tried to milk out every bit of learning, every bit of hard knocks learning that Walt could derive from that. But halfway through (episode) 508, Walt has ascended to the throne. Mike, who was a bit of an obstacle for him this last season, is now out of the way, and Walt is basically making money and meth, and running his business with a minimum of muss and fuss. When one lives happily ever after at the end of the fable, the living happily ever after part is the boring part. When Walt finally no longer faces an adversary, at least for a while, that's when you can speed things up and let the audience know, for a while, things are more or less smooth in the sailing department. But that, in this particular case, leads to its own problems. Walt is less and less satisfied with doing this job. He's more disenchanted with it. I think we start to realize it's the obstacles that Walt has overcome that in large part make him feel alive and give him his vim and vigor and excite him. Once it's just a matter of making the donuts week in and week out, it becomes less interesting. That's when in fact, you find yourself as a writer speeding things up.
This post was edited on 5/12/13 at 9:48 am
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 6:35 pm to
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He also used drug money to pay for his hospital bills, so he may be seen as an accomplice just for that. Hank is in a very weird position.




That's not even the biggest reason Hank won't turn Walt in. Hank's not going to implicate Skylar.

I think Hank's going to make it clear that Walt better hightail it out of town and never come back.

What I can't figure out is why is Walt coming back a year(or 9 months) later with a machine gun? Who's he going after?

Is he going to free Jesse who Hank may have arrested after Walt left? Maybe Walt knows its Jesse's court date and Walt is going to save him?

That's probably a shite theory but I just don't know.

I just caught up this week so I wasn't around for the original threads. I'm sure the color scheme thing that Vince does was pointed out huh?

Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14414 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:29 am to
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